Post # 1
I am hoping for some tips here… the date has finally arrived where I had expected to be finalizing our move into our new 2 bedroom apartment and now I just want to cry. We were told by the property manager earlier this month that she’d have the keys Friday night because the tenants were taking the week off of work to move their stuff into their new house that was in their possession since the start of March. It was perfect timing because both FI and I work full time and my father does shift work (he is driving the uhaul) so that was his weekend off.
I called earlier today just to confirm what time on Friday night or Saturday morning I can get the keys from her… she says she was just about to call me. The tenants claim that they don’t want to be rushed moving out and now want to take both Saturday and Sunday to move… she hopes to get the keys late Sunday night. That leaves us with Monday to move. FI works until 6pm and he cannot afford to take time off of work, my dad works until 7pm and I get off at 4:30. It also doesn’t help that people were supposed to be moving into our apartment on Sunday as we said we’d likely be all out Saturday at noon.
My father took the day off of work for me so he could pick up the uhaul at 4pm, pick me up from work and we’d move without FI. I am now panicking because I didn’t expect to have only 2 hours to move out all of our furniture and do a final clean to make sure the landlord doesn’t nick us for having to clean it for the other tenants. It is going to be very hectic and I don’t know if anyone has any tips other than basically run with everything and chuck it in the uhaul… it’ll probably be pretty bad because I imagine the other people will be waiting at our heels to move their stuff in so they can at least have their bed together by bedtime!
Post # 2
Does your new lease have a move-in date on it? When I was moving into a new apartment a few years ago, they tried to pull the same “the old tenants actually need some extra time to move out; can you push back until Monday?” But my new lease specified my move-in date was that Saturday, so I just said “I won’t be able to accommodate that, sorry” and they had to let me move in on that saturday. To hell with the old tenants. A contract is a contract.
So if your lease says you move in on the Friday, then you do NOT have to accommodate the former tenants wanting to take their time.
Post # 3
ElayneRunner: Sounds like your apartment complex doesn’t have a very organized system put together, which is concerning on its own. Any apartment I’ve ever lived in, we HAD to give a 30 day notice of the EXACT day we were moving out, and HAD to turn in our keys by that day. I can’t believe the previous tenants were allowed to have that much power over when the could move out– that’s bad management on your new apartment’s part. That’s totally unprofessional and unfair to keep you and your FI in lingo– this is your life, not a game. While I think you’ll find a way to manage, I don’t blame you for your stress and am sorry that you are having to deal with something that shouldn’t have to be dealt with.
Post # 4
Sounds weird to me, as usually there’s cleaning, painting, etc. So there should be some wiggle room, it typically isn’t one person out, the next in without at least a day in between.
Post # 5
You can move as much as possible head of time to someone else’s place who can store it for you. Only keep those things at your current place that you absolutely must have and need for the final week and when you first move into your new home.
The more stuff you can move elsewhere , the easier it will be for you to clean.
Post # 6
iarebridezilla: Unfortunately no lease is involved, even though I had it in writing our move in date was supposed to be Saturday there isn’t anything she can do to get them out since they did pay up intil Monday for rent.
mdcmod: They do seem rather organized and the property manager seemed very on top of things but I guess since she was bugging them to confirm their move out date they decided to be nasty. They have the power simply because they paid rent up until Monday night at midnight, I am just glad they aren’t taking Monday as well or we’d be stuck with our stuff in a uhaul and sleeping at my parents… The property manager does seem mortified that this has happened, she didn’t imagine they’d turn around and want the entire weekend when they’ve supposedly been moving for a week now.
AB Bride: The apartment was actually painted a month or so ago when the tenants hadn’t even given notice yet plus they are responsible to have the place cleaned for us to move in, at this point I’d clean the place myself if it meant moving in on time. I was under the impression there was going to be some wiggle room but apparently the landlords here would rather jeapordize a move rather than have it sit empty for a part month.
Post # 7
ElayneRunner: What do you mean no lease is involved?
And she can reimburse them pro-rated a couple of days. They don’t need “extra time”. When you’re suppose to move out, you move out. Tell her someone is moving into your place and allowing that extra time just isn’t acceptable.
Post # 8
Yeah- I don’t think I could ever rent a space without a lease. I’d be weary of anyone willing to rent without one, just the same. It’s sole purpose is to prevent things like this from happening.
I’m assuming you paid in advance for your move-in date? They may have paid, but she had a verbal agreement with you. So, ask her what she would suggest for you to do, since she got you into this mess (she never confirmed a move out date with them prior to giving you a move in date???).
Post # 9
no lease = not the end of this story.
no lease = you’re hooped if she just decides tomorrow that she wants a day or week or month or whatever to renovate the place.
no lease = rent increases, service decreases as desired by landlord.
no lease = you can be kicked out at any time.
GET A LEASE! Hopefully you can put this part behind you and get a lease going forward. As in, with this landlord and this unit, with very clear move in and move out dates and every single thing that is expected of you as well as what falls under the landlord’s responsibility.
Post # 10
Also, she “hopes” to get the keys on Sunday night? Um, that would not sit well with me. Given the flakiness from the get-go, I would be highly concerned with what you will do if/when that doesn’t happen.
Post # 11
Wait, I used to work in the rental industry and you are expected to move into a place that hasn’t been properly cleaned or maintenance checked in between renters? Ummm, what!? Same with the one your moving out of? No lease? This whole thing isn’t a good situation, IMO, nor does it sound legal.
Post # 12
ElayneRunner: There are a few red flags here that I think I would consider before jumping in with both feet. The first being that you don’t have any lease whatsoever, no contract to protect your rights as a tenant. Even though you have a few things in writing they clearly don’t have their act together enough to follow it. If they knew the previous tenant had paid until Monday they shouldn’t have agreed to a move-in date on Saturday, that was their mistake from the get go.
Also, this timeline leaves no room for any damaged items, a proper walk through inspection with the old tenants or the new ones (you) nor does it give you time to prepare the apartment in case it is left in a dirty condition. While you say you will clean the apartment legally YOU shouldn’t have to. I understand that you say that out of frustration but at the same time you have rights as well. I hope that the move does go smoothly and that you can work things out quickly. In the mean time I would highly suggest you discuss with them signing a lease, even if it is month to month.
Post # 13
- Wedding: June 2014 - Baby #2 due Sep 2017
If the previous tenants have paid up to Monday, then that’s fair enough on their behalf. The bad person here is your landlord. They should also arrange to have the apartment professionally cleaned and checked…. think of all the dust and hairs left behind by the previous tenants.. ewww.
Talk to your landlord and ask for other options. This situation is ridiculous. And I am also moving house today as it happens.
Post # 14
Leases don’t think to be “a thing” in my town, I’ve never known anyone here to have ever singed a lease to rent an apartment… I’m not sure why that is but even the big complexes that you’d think require signed leases do not. I do live in Ontario so there is protection under the landlord tenant board, she can only raise rent by X% every year for X many years, she can’t just throw us out (even if we don’t pay rent for a couple months!) and there is a million hoops to jump through to take any kind of action against us. Now that I think of it this may be why there isn’t leases in my area.
We did pay first and last months rent ahead of time, if I had known we’d be screwed with moving in I would’ve witheld half of it until the move date! The problem with her verbally telling me I could have moved in today and the issue of their still being people there is that their rights would be violated if we began moving in before they were out… She had initially confirmed Friday as their move out date but when she was double checking earlier this week that is when they decided to switch it!
She has assured me that she has already done a pre-walkthrough to make sure it isn’t a mess or anything, she says all that they’ll need to do on their way out is a good sweep and she’ll have it professionally cleaned or repaired for us if we move in to excess dirt or damages.
If something happens and we can’t get the keys on Sunday I’ll be calling the landlord and complaining about her, even if we do get the keys Sunday I’ll just be calling later to complain about the hassle it was dealing with her and how she made promises she couldn’t keep.
MrsYoshida: It is so hard not to get mad at the tenants and remember it was the landlord that put me in this situation… I almost wish I could reach out to them and practically beg them to have stuck to their original plan! I am so jealous of you right now!!!
Just generally nothing has changed though since I posted. They are still going to potentially be out by Sunday and the property manager is useless. I’ve been trying to get the account number to set up my name on the hydro and she won’t even call back to give me the account number, she just keeps on reminding me to set it up through texts. I also remembered that our orginal plan was to move everything out, set up at the new place and then come back to get our cat and move her in so it is less chaotic for her… but now I guess I’ll need to leash her and have her with me while we are moving!
I can certainly say this is a lesson learned. If I had known this would happen months ago I would’ve just held out for an apartment where I could move in on time!
Post # 15
That really sucks. Where I live most tenancy agreements are fixed term so you have to be out when you say so – but fortunately almost all are 1 Jan – 31 Dec and you literally say hi to the people moving out when you walk in the door… So I know the feeling of getting everything done in a short space of time.
My suggestion? Pack everything up into one room, boxed so it can be carried directly into the truck on Monday – do this over this weekend… including putting the bed in plastic and the couches stacked. We have an inflatable airbed for camping and sleeping bags that we use in the living room which we pack up in 2min on the last morning, keep only 2 plates, sets out cutlery out etc etc so that the day of moving is simply putting boxes into the truck, vacuum and last clean out of the fridge. Then when you move in to the new place, do the reverse.
It does sound very disappointing, and having to move this way is certainly a lot more work and stress than doing it slowly over a weekend. Do you think the new tenants would mind you moving in as they are still moving out? Is it possible to set this up?