Post # 1
If you need the full story of my apartment woes look up my recent thread on the matter. Essentially the door is broken and won’t be fixed until God knows when, FI is accused by the landlord and his wife of throwing me into the door to break it and we’ve decided to just look for a new place to live.
I already have a showing booked for Tuesday morning for a 2 bedroom with a move in date of April 1st (upper end of budget though) and I need to fill out the rental application.
The only rental reference we have is this landlord. We’ve always paid rent on time and have a good relationship with the caretaker. But there are now allegations of abuse. Almost a year ago the wife accused FI of beating me because we had some noise complaints (walls are paper thin) and the police were called on one occasion because we weren’t aware it was 11pm. We brushed it off as we know the truth that I am not being abused.
So after this door incident the landlord looked me in the eye and told me that he knew I was shoved into that window… I also know that the wife thinks that as well. Because of these thoughts I fear that they will communicate that to new landlords asking for a reference that he is an abuser which will result in our applications being denied.
I don’t know if there is anything we can say when handing over the reference to do damage control. I was thinking of telling them that we are currently having problems with our current apartment (explain the repairs we can’t live without) and add that they are also making allegations against us that I am not comfortable with…
I don’t know how to handle this. It was so easy to rent our first apartment because there was no forms to fill out and no references even needed.
Post # 3
- Wedding: September 2012 - Southern California
Super weird that they’re accusing your FH of all of this :/. Could you ask the owner’s son to be your reference? He seems to be more helpful & logical during all of this. I also think being honest with your new future landlords is a good way to go. I would just mention that they haven’t been able to make repairs & are now making false accusations that you & your FH aren’t comfortable with. Good luck!
Post # 4
@stephanie091512: We’re going to add him to the application but they specifically want my landlords name and contact information which means they will discuss us with either him or his wife… the son also NEVER answers his phone calls so he wouldn’t really be helping.
I would really rather be honest and upfront about everything so they don’t call and just get blown away by sudden accusations of abuse!
It apparently isn’t as weird as it first seemed. I’ve been venting to my parents (my mother of course now beleives that he may be abusing me just because they are accusing him) and my father revealed something to me that I did not know as I never mentioned my landlord to him before. He said that around town he is known as “the snake” and that if he knew that was our landlord he never would of let me move out of the house! He said he will lie and cheat to his tenants and we need to get out asap!
Post # 5
Can you show receipts or copies of cancelled checks to show you always paid the rent. I would be upfront but have those with me too.
Post # 6
@ElayneRunner: I work in property management and the best policy is to be upfront. Landlords are more than aware that sometimes things like this happen. If you have paid on time, that is of most importance to potential landlords. Secondly, whether or not you will get your security deposit back is important too. Are they charging you for damages? I ask this because if you left the place in good condition they are obligated to be truthful about that. Most placed run credit, look at income, and job stability. Your landlord should not be the only determining factor in you being approved.
Post # 7
If you find out that he tells others that you are being abused call the police to speak to him… he is under no circumstances allowed to slander your FI and you when nothing has been proven and if you’ve had the odd noise complaint. He should only be telling them your rent payment history and any problems he has had (as in noise complaints from other tenants) but he cannot be telling people you are being beaten and thrown through windows no matter how much he wants to beleive it.
It could help to just claim this is your first time renting but that can also work against you because you’ll have competition sometimes from people who actually have references to confirm they pay rent on time. There is also always the chance they won’t even call him if you come across as professional and responsible.
I would only bring up anything if they specifically ask about your rental history and you can say that you always pay rent on time and you really enjoyed your apartment but it is currently in a sate of disrepair and the landlord is not able to fix it to your satisfaction and you don’t feel like it is a safe situation to live in. It may depend on the landlord about whether or not you feel comfortable enough saying “There have also been some allegations made against my FI that are unfounded and are making us uncomfortable living there any longer.”
Best of luck!!! I hope this doesn’t interfere with your wedding planning!
Post # 8
Honestly… I wouldn’t consider using your current landlord as a reference. It would compromise your chances of getting any place. I would use a trusted family member or friend instead. Obviously it’s not being completely honest, but if you’re not bad tenants and plan to take care of the place, I feel it’s your only option for your family.
Post # 9
- Wedding: July 2012 - The Gables Inn, Santa Rosa, CA
I would list the care-taker as the reference and explain that they’re the one you have the most contact with. Also, don’t say anything in advance. If you are denied, ask for the reason. If you don’t believe what they say, you can explain that there are unfouded allogations and you hope they didn’t play a role in the new places’ decision making process.
Post # 10
I know it sounds risky, but I would be upfront on your application that you are having problems with your current landlord not making your home livable. Note that you have paid on time, and that you have not reported the landlord (at least you hadn’t at your previous post) due to not wanting to cause waves additional problems. You may find them being sympathetic.
Also, a lot of places who rent know who the bad landlords are, and will not pay that much attention to a bad reference from them.
That said, I left two appartments on not so great terms with management, and never had trouble renting a new place.
Post # 11
If you’re trying to rent through a property management company or a big apartment complex, the people checking the references really only want to know if you paid your rent on time, and if you needed to be evicted, so it might not matter what your landlord has to say. If you do not get this apartment, I would focus my future apartment searching on only apartments in big complexes or run through agencies, because the personaltiy ‘issues” with your current landlord will not matter to them.
Post # 12
@janinaPK: I luckily have all of our receipts dated on the first of the month from the caretaker, I am unsure if the cancelled cheques would help as sometimes he waited 3 weeks to actually deposit our rent!
@WeddingBells2014: I am going to look into that! If I find out that he is slandering FI to other people based on his assumptions of what is going on I will call the police and see what can be done about it. This could really ruin his life if he suddenly becomes known in our smaller community as a “wife beater”.
@jaia07: I’m certainly going to include a list of character references who would vouch for us in addition to it, I am unsure if we’ll include the landlord on the application or if we’ll just appear as new renters.
@juliette.eliza: That is a great idea, I’ll just mention that we’ve only actually dealt with the landlord himself twice (once when we got the place and now this) while we lived right beside the caretaker for years. I know he also feels horrible about what is going on so he’d give us a shining reference to make up for this.
@Misswhowedding: Thats a good idea, it may certainly go in my favour if I disclose that and then say that I haven’t taken any action against him and I am just moving out instead of retaliation… may make me look like a better tenant to them! Our area is a little notorious for sketchy landlords that slum apartments so hopefully they’ll understand what I am going through.
@Horseradish: We are certainly only looking at property management companies instead even though they charge a little bit extra for rent here. I’d rather be rest assured that problems can be taken care of instead of waiting for a landlord who could care less about taking care of his places. He owns a separate business apart from renting so I can imagine this is no priority at all.
Post # 13
- Wedding: November 2011 - Florida Aquarium
Honestly, I’ve never had a situation where the previous landlord was actually called. the prospective landlord only cares about your salary and credit score, in my experience. I had a bad experoenece once, too, but he was never called. Don’t worry…. If a new landlord brings it up, then offer an explanation.
Post # 14
Hello again! When we applied for our apartment we were so worried because everywhere we looked wanted rental references, and we hadn’t even moved out of our parents’ houses yet. We told the people up front that we had never rented before, but the lady in the office said it was okay. We were worried that the only place we would be able to get would be a slum, but we ended up in a very nice apartment complex. I don’t think it’ll be impossible to find a company who is sympathetic to your situation. Most places just ask for the references to see if you’ll actually give them one. Some check just to see if you’re lying about the reference as well, so don’t do that! Are you sure this guy won’t give you a great report just to get you out since you mentioned previously that he threatened to evict you? If he says anything more than you paid on time I would get someone involved in the situation. I would also be upfront to the prospective landlord by telling him or her that you are in the process of looking because you are having problems with what is basically a slumlord who is not only not taking care of your apartment but also treating you poorly.
Post # 15
@beetee123: Here is the thing, he himself never threatened eviction – his wife did but I don’t think he cared. I don’t think he’d give us that bad of a reference but if she got on the phone I cringe at what she’d reveal without even being prompted! I’ve heard of landlords here giving bad references to tenants and then evicting them in an attempt to make them homeless. I’m not sure if they would actually do something like that though.
But after thinking about it I should have an easy time as our town has a less than stellar crowd in the renting community that somehow can find a new apartment whenever they want one!
Post # 16
@ElayneRunner: Is a reference a thing for renting? I’ve rented three or four apartments and I’ve never had to provide references. Mine were all in Philly, so maybe it’s different there?