Post # 1
So here’s the dealio, We just moved into our new place and our Chi-weenie has starting crying alllllll night, like puppies do, that whining/yelping but loud as s___.
We went from a house to a duplex, so now their are neighbors near by and I feel SUPER bad and lame that my dog is doing this. When he was a puppy and did this we ignored it, missed about a week of sleep and he finally stopped. He is SO loud I’m sure they can hear him.
We adopted him as a tiny puppy at our old house so he’s be there almost his whole life, he’s a little over a year old now. I know he’s probably scared/stressed. Our pitty is here with him too so he’s not lonley. He’s just protesting.
Any information that might help:
He is crate trained at night, always did really well. If he’s not in his crate at night (it’s a big one not a small one) he’ll poop on the floor at night. We take him out twice before bed, he has food and water in there with him. He has blankets.
Last night I tried covering the crate with a blanket, didn’t help. I’ve tried shushing him, doens’t help. I’ve threatend him his his no-no bottle (a spray bottle of water). Nothing helps.
Any tips/tricks or anything to help?
Post # 3
When we were fostering puppies and they would get like that, I would move the kennel next to the bed and poke my fingers in for re-assurance, and usually fall asleep like that. Then slowly moved the kennel a bit further away each night.
Post # 4
Also, make sure the kennel isn’t in a drafty area, it can be dis-comforting for them.
Post # 5
My aunt was training her puppy who did the same thing in his crate. She had the crate next to her bed, but since her bed was so high up, the puppy couldnt see her in the night. She wound up setting the crate on top of a platform so that it was raised up and the puppy slept much better after being able to see her as he periodically woke up throughout the night.
Post # 6
I’m not sure how to actually solve your problem (my husband and I are bad doggy owners and when we had this issue we just let her start sleeping in our bed!). However, I would suggest talking to the other people in the duplex just to let them know that you realize it is an issue and that you are working on it.
Post # 7
First off, you’re in a new home! New den, new smells, new layout, new sounds, new people. Everything is new, he will need some time to adjust.
Secondly, his crate should be no bigger than what is safe for him to turn around in comfortably. Crates are safe havens, personal dens. In the wild, dogs that have burrows generally keep them pretty snug. If his crate is too big and he continues to be distressed, he may start pooping in it. You don’t want the crate large enough so he can “get away from it” (Like poop in the corner and lie by the door gate) because that just encourages a potty spot.
His crate should absolutely always be a good place. Spraying him in his crate is going to make him stressed out even more, his den becomes a bad place and he’ll not want to be there. Crates should never be used as punishment or time-out spots because they’re no longer the “Warm and comforting place I go when I need to”, they become “That prison mom and dad put me in.”
My suggestion is to make his den more inviting and make him happy to be in there. Covering him up should be fine, but do not scold him or spritz him or threaten him in his crate. Try sticking your fingers in the crate so he can sniff you and touch you, or throw one of your old shirts or a towel you’ve used in there. You uprooted his routine and now he needs to establish it again.
He will calm down, I promise. Dog worlds are surprisingly very tiny. They see their house and their crate. His whole world is gone and it will take him time to readjust.
Post # 8
Thanks for the advice everyone. I had to get up a few times and Hush him in scary voice, but after about 5 days total he’s now back to normal. 🙂 He’s had to adjust so I should have kept that in mind. But I’m happy he’s comfortable now and I can get my sleep!
We don’t allow pets in our room, and his crate is about medium size I think? There is enough room for his food dish and him to stand up/turn around/lay down. I have a blanket in there so it makes it more cozy for him.
Post # 9
@PixelMePretty: I was so happy to see this is recent so I could help! We just moved as well from the only house our 1.5 year old dog has known. While he’s not crying at night, he barks and loses his shit when I leave for work (after his kong is finished lol). It actually has gotten better in the past two days because of all the separation anxiety techniques we’re working on. So, I have some suggestions for you!
What might be happening is that, since you’re in an unfamiliar place, he might not know that this is a safe place yet. As your dog, his role is to protect you and he might be experiencing stress about not being able to do that from where his crate is. He hasn’t yet attributed your new surroundings to being his home where you’re all safe. Our dog was barking so loudly and howling when I left for work and a trainer told me that dogs trust their people know how to get “home”. When you move to a new place, he might think you’re lost when you’re not in the same room and is barking to say “Here, I’ll help you! Let me howl so you can follow my voice back!”. When we came home, he would think “Finally! You found your way back! I saved you!” It is reading into the situation a lot, but it almost made sense to me haha. If you won’t be having the crate in your room long term, I don’t recommend moving it in there while your dog is adjusting. Ithink it would create more confusion. Someone suggested to us that we have a fan on in the room the dog is in (while we’re at work as he sleeps in our room at night) or put a radio/small tv on so he doesn’t hear the neighbors as much and to make him feel safe. I second that I wouldn’t use his no-no bottle in the crate.
Another thing you can try is Composure Treats. Our vet recommended them for SA and he’s very anti medication. He said they’re all natural and they just help them relax. As you mentioned all his needs are met and he’s not crying because of that, this might be all he needs to relax enough to fall asleep. Also, for a couple nights, try to tire him out completely before bed so he has an easier time drifting off. Once he falls asleep and wakes up in his crate and realizes that everything is okay, it’ll be easier for him to get to that point naturally. I don’t know if it’s the same for a night time routine, but for separation anxiety, I had to switch up my morning routine so that the dog didn’t catch on. I know this sounds stupid but the reason is that his anxiety would slowly build over the course of the morning and when I finally left, he was at that breaking point where he would just lose his shit. By doing my hair then going downstairs and watching TV for even just 5 minutes (instead of doing my makeup), he was thrown off. I also packed the car and then came back in and took my shower. I did things I was afraid this would make things worse because it wasn’t sticking to the normal routine he knew, but it curtailed the building of anxiety so much that he didn’t bark at all when I left that day. Maybe try to alter his/your bedtime routine? The anxiety he’s having could be that he doesn’t want to be locked in his crate in another room in an unfamiliar place. It could be a similar situation and its probably the easiest thing to try. I couldn’t believe how much of a difference it made.
I know it is unbelievably uncomfortable to have to address the noise with your neighbors (trust me, ours are our landlords), but it helped our situation SO much. It told our landlords/neighbors that we cared, that it was out of character for our pet, and most importantly that we were seeking out information/training and applying those techniques to make it better. I told them our vet said it would take a couple weeks of adjustment. When they knew that, they knew it wasn’t going to go on forever and that we cared how it impacted them. For me, hearing them tell me they have a dog and they understand but that they were so grateful to know it wasn’t normal behavior of our dog made all the difference in my attitude. I was so scared that we’d be asked to leave (it’s month to month) and we’d be facing this issue in any setting we moved to. I was having such bad anxiety about our morning routine and it rubbed off on the dog. I suggest just going over and explaining that this hasn’t happened before but that you’re talking to your vet/trainers and working on techniques to help. Explain that dogs have trouble with separation anxiety when relocating and that thisi s a normal response that can and WILL be worked on by you guys. Offer them your phone number to text you if they’re trying to sleep/working from home/have a sleeping baby trying to nap and they’re disturbed. It’s better if they contact you than a landlord. Most people are understanding and can tolerate a disruption for a couple weeks if they know you’re acknowledging their discomfort.
I hope it works for you guys! Hang in there! You’re all adjusting and I knwo this is the worst feeling when you’re trying to get settled and you’re worried that you’re the annoying neighbor with the loud dog. I’ll be thinking of you guys!