My heart just hurts today…neighbors, their dog, my dog…

posted 2 years ago in Pets
Post # 46
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 1996

I’m so sorry you all went through this! Under the circumstances I think it was for the best that the aggressive dog be put down, honestly, although where I live the way to do it would have been to take it to a vet’s office. I’d suggest that you look into a dog trainer with experience helping dogs get over being attacked so that Layla can get some professional support and not end up permanently scarred (emotionally) by this incident. Poor girl!

Post # 48
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817 posts
Busy bee

baunie :  Exactly my thought. This whole thing disgusts me. 

Post # 50
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

KKML125 :  I feel the entire situation is your neighbor’s fault and nobody else’s.  He was not a responsible pet owner in any way.  What he did was horrible.  I’m sorry you had to experience this.

Also, thank your husband for his service as a law enforcement officer, that’s a tough job.

Post # 51
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Bumble bee

KKML125 :  guns has been a hot topic since wednesday especially carrying guns for “protection”, no matter what your profession is but enough about that since there is a 30 page thread going still. just to explain why we are especially confused by this now. 

The electric fence is underground so there is no actual physical fence? I’m sorry but I’ve never heard of this. if this is the case then the neighbours are idiots especially if they didnt fix anything after the first bite. Every country I’ve ever lived in where dogs are on a yard have physical fences.

I gathered from your answers that you don’t have a fence and you let your dog run around free. I know this was not the question but maybe you should consider getting a fence to protect Layla and protect others from Layla. Everyone are not happy about dogs potentially approaching and now it is a dog who is traumatised.

I appreciate you feel for the neighbour but based on what you wrote the neighbour really didn’t care about the dog. just about the thought of having a dog not actually training one. rehoming a dog with that background is difficult and dogs don’t change without training. I do hope Layla will be ok soon and after the initial shock will be back to her old self.

Post # 52
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Bumble bee

Where I live a dog with that kind of bite history would just be put down by a shelter and/or animal control. It’s a bit weird they did it themselves instead of bringing it to a vet, but trying to keep the dog and do behavioral training legit at that point isn’t an option depending on local laws. 

And dogs of certain sizes can absolutely kill people so I don’t fault your husband for pulling his gun out after already being bit. 

I love dogs, but irresponsible dog owners who allow dogs to become that aggressive put their dogs’ lives at risk. The fault lies with the owner. 

 

Post # 53
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Busy bee

KKML125 :  Jesus Christ here we go…

You and I obviously have VERY different perspectives on when it’s appropriate or inappropriate to carry a weapon, however that’s not part of your original post and I’m not about to dive into that shitty can of worms with you. I’d rather watch paint dry. 

Don’t freaking go onto another person’s property and shoot another person’s dog. I don’t care what the situation is. Dont euthanize dogs for having bad behavior, either train them or rehome them. End of story. 

Post # 54
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Buzzing bee

It bit 6 people?! How were those owners never sued and the dog taken away? It would have been euthanized after 3 bites here, and the owner sent the bill. You should have reported the dog when it bit Layla the first time. It should have never been allowed off it’s leash to greet you at your car either. Your cop husband ignored a lot of laws here he should have been enforcing, he helped put everyone at risk- maybe he wanted a chance to shoot the aggressive dog…

I don’t care if your husband is a cop and carries a gun everywhere, he can’t go onto somebody’s property uninvited (trespassing) and shoot their dog when it attacks him- it’s the dog’s yard! A badge doesnt mean he can ignore the 4th Amendment. Maybe that owner was just waiting to sue you for killing the bad dog. Now you have to sue them. I hate bad pet owners, nobody wins here.

Post # 55
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

I’m sorry you all had to go through that, but (sorry, I’m not sorry) that they did simply put down such an agressive dog (though I’m not totally on board with the method).  And I also completely understand your husband wanting to protect himself in the moment.  A dog ran out of its yard and attacked our dog on leash while we were walking him on the other side of the street.  3 grown men, my husband, the owner, and the owners brother were all trying without success to get the damn dog off my dog as he had my dogs neck in his jaws.  In the moment, had my husband had any type of weapon, I do think he would have used it and not had any second thoughts.  In the moment when you feel your pet or your life could be in danger, you take actions to protect yourself or pet what ever means you can.  We thought about carrying a blade if it were to happen again, and while I personally don’t think I could stab a dog, he said he’d never want to, but if it came down to it, he thinks his instinct to protect our dog would kick in.   

Post # 56
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2019

Your neighbor are entirely to blame for their misery, as they did not train or contain their pet appropriately.  That dog could be alive and well today, not to mention happy and non-aggressive, had they given her the time and care they deserved.  They failed that poor animal and they should never have another one.  If your husband has the capacity to flag them against future dog ownership, I definitely would.

However, it’s possible he should request training from his department about non-lethal ways to handle a biting dog.  A frightened or injured dog will bite even if it’s usually non-aggressive.  Therefore, if police are called in for a domestic disturbance, a normally friendly dog may bite because it’s scared by the chaos between its owners.  Likewise, a dog hurt in a home invasion may turn on police because it has already been injured by strangers once today and cannot tell that their intentions are different from those of the invaders. 

Clearly, your husband doesn’t want to hurt any dogs he doesn’t have to.  Maybe some good can come of this if he uses it to identify gaps in training and takes action to rectify that.  Nothing can be done for your neighbor’s poor dog now, but it could save future canine lives.

Post # 57
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

The first thing I would have done is pick my dog up before the other dog got to her. Why would you just stand there screaming??

Also, The dog had bitten like ten fucking people and animals and your neighbors didn’t try some measures to help the dog and train it instead of fucking shooting it??

This whole post was ridiculous and made me so angry…

Post # 58
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2015

If your husband thinks he needs a gun to deliver their package, he would be better off letting them pick it up.

his superiors, if they were aware of this and doing their job, would not condone your husband drawing his weapon in a neighbor’s yard to shoot their dog – – which your husband anticipated needing protection from, but decided to put himself in danger on their property for some packages.

police officers are supposed to be trained in how to deal with biting dogs. Police officers are trained in levels of engagement and avoiding lethal engagement. 

this easily could have escalated with the neighbors shooting your husband because he is on their property. Do you not see that or the many other ways drawing a weapon can go wrong?

This is not a good idea, it does not protect and serve.

I’m very sorry you all had a fright, but good lord. This is one of the most disturbing things all around. Wtf. And omg these people should not be allowed to own another animal. Ever.

 

Post # 59
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2018

I think we want know what efforts the owners used to possibly deal ridden such am aggressive dog,  although I do judge them a bit for using an electric fence.  I mean seriously.  With the level of aggression this dog displayed,  there wasn’t anything else the owners could have done. The whole situation sucks and I’m really sorry for the pain everyone is going through.  🙁

Also,  I thank your husband for his service and I would just ignore the gun control bees. 

Post # 60
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

BalletParker :  100% this. The way shit went down tells me everyone involved in this debacle is irresponsible, irrational, and impulsively idiotic… And the OP standing there while the dog was attacked blows my fucking mind. 

Two years ago there was a kid walking a dog who pulled out of his grasp. The dog sprinted toward me and my dogs. I have no idea whether this dog is friendly or mean. The FIRST fucking thing I did was scoop up one 35 lbs dog and scoop the other 45 lb dog under my other arm and tried to hold them as high up as my arms would allow and stood my ground ready to kick that fuckigg dog in the throat. I screamed to the kid to get his parents because I was going to do whatever it takes to protect my dogs. The kid was traumatized. Good thing I didn’t have to do anything because the dog did not try to attack. He got close and was growling but didn’t go to lunge at us. my literal first thought was to get in between the dog and my dogs. I would be more likely to survive that attack than they would. 

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