My heart just hurts today…neighbors, their dog, my dog…

posted 2 years ago in Pets
Post # 76
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578 posts
Busy bee

My husband is a cop. He doesn’t personally own any firearm or weapon. His gun stays at work and he carries it on duty only. He’s also seen plenty of shit and been in dangerous situations at work so the “my husband is a cop! He REALLY understands what it’s like to need to defend himself!” is bullshit. There is literally NO reason to carry a gun in your pocket at all times. That’s up there for one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. 

Post # 77
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2010

I have several close friends who are police officers (including my next door neighbor) and they ALWAYS carry their gun. So that part isn’t weird to me at all. And I am super pro gun control and would never own a gun myself- but LEO’s are different. Your husband is trained for crisis- so I’d trust his judgement over a bunch of internet Monday morning quarterbacks. So easy to say what SHOULD have happened from the comfort of your own couch. That being said, the dog should have been put down (by a vet) the first time it bit someone. I’m sorry you all had such a traumatic day. 

Post # 78
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2015

KKML125 :  Wow. What a terrible situation to be in. I’m impressed you have so much sympathy for your neighbors, who were clearly the irresponsible party in this. I also hope your dog has a successful recovery.

I’m really shocked at how many people are attacking your husband for almost shooting their dog when it was attacking him. Do you all not remember Bethany Stephens, the poor woman who was killed by HER OWN DOGS? Dog attacks can kill adults, and while I’m an animal-loving vegetarian with a dog of my own, if I felt my life was in danger by a dog and I had gun, I don’t think I would hesitate to shoot. Now since he was on the neighbor’s property, I’m not sure what the legal repercussions would be. But I would take my chances vs. possibly dying.

I also know police officers who carry off duty, and whether you like it or not, OP says it’s legal in her state, so I don’t see what the problem with that is.

I’m sorry you’re dealing with all this criticism around this by bees who I’m convinced have never been attacked by a dog before.

I am appalled that the neighbor decided to shoot the dog instead of getting it euthanized at the vet. Not sure I understand his reasoning behind that, unless he felt the dog would’ve posed a threat at the vet?

Post # 79
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Buzzing Beekeeper

Have none of you actually heard of fences? Every backyard here is fenced on four sides so animals can’t roam free. I can drop something at my neighbours with no need to worry about their dog and my animals can roam our backyard with no fear of being attacked by others animals.

Responsible pet ownership includes providing a safe environment for your pet. All parties here failed the animals involved.

 

Post # 80
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Helper bee

Sounds like a terrible situation to be in. I’m sorry you guys are going through this. 

Aggressive dogs are difficult to handle. Who knows what went wrong? I do think your neighbor should have gotten things done the proper way.  

I’d also like to point that your husband is an idoit for going into an aggressive dog’s yard and then being surprised that said dog reacted in an aggressive manner. One should expect dogs to behave in the way that they have behaved in the past. 

 

Post # 81
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Blushing bee

Wow!

If you have a dog digging their teeth in I honestly don’t understand what people would do. You also act outoof fear and pain so unless you are in that sitasitua with a gun on hand you cant say for yourself.

The dog should have been trained properly but after the first bite, if the person had gone to the police then the dog would have been put to sleep I’m sure. There is a very low threshold for violent dogs and it is very hard to correct that behaviour.

We don’t know how much training that neighbour dog had. They could have tried training after the first bite. But if a dog has bitten once then id assume they are likely to again. 

Post # 82
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Sugar bee

Dangerous dogs have to be put down. 

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the dog. ( Unprovoked attack on someone coming to the door. Numerous previous attacks. Unprovoked attack on your dog in the street with your small child present. And it could have been an awful lot worse.)

I have no sympathy for your neighbours. They should have had the dog put down due to repeated aggressiveness and unpredictability.

Even re-homing the dog is just passing the problem on to someone else. Very irresponsible.

Stop being so soft about it all. Your neighbours will be upset but maybe they will think twice about getting a dog in the future. Clearly they shouldn’t be dog owners.

I do hope that your neighbours have offered to pay the vet bill. That’s the least they could do.

Post # 83
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2021 - City, State

This is the strangest thread ever. So many issues

1) why don’t YOU have a Fence for your dog??

2) why when your dig was bitten didn’t you call animal control? You just naively believed your neighbour would do something about it, which is a little irresponsible

3) your husband being a police officer does not give him a right to carry a firearm at all times (however I am a UK bee and very few police officers carry firearms and if they shoot someone they are suspended while it’s investigated FULLY) 

4) your dog being heavy doesn’t mean you do nothing, it’s a bit irresponsible to say you couldn’t, you just stood there and screamed.

 

you need to get a fence 

Post # 84
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1042 posts
Bumble bee

whoswho :  US is different from the UK on the fact anyone can carry a concealed firearm with the proper documents, she was taking her dog for a walk when she was attacked, and it’s pretty presumption to tell her how to act in this type of situation. Some people freeze while others fight. 

I personally feel like she was SMART for not bending down eye level with two attacking dogs to pick up her 70lb dog. Let’s have her mauled in front of her mother and her child. Smart plan. 

Post # 85
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Bumble bee

And can we all stop bashing on the concealed weapon? It is perfectly legal to carry in the states with the proper permits. You may not agree with it, but that doesn’t change her husband did anything wrong. 

We also don’t know if she lives in a community that does not allow fences. Strange concept, but due to HOA regulations there are plenty of communities where I live that don’t allow fences. 

As far as not reporting the dog? If I didn’t know the dog had attacked before and the owners took responsibility for any incurred medical expenses and had no reason not to trust them, I wouldn’t report them right away either. It’s called trusting your neighbors and building friendly relationships. They had no clue when her husband was attacked. Hence him taking the package over as an act of goodwill and FRIENDLY intentions towards their neighbor. 

And lastly, stop telling the OP how to react in this type of situation. Some people are fighter and some are not. And that’s ok!

Post # 86
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Sugar bee

The OP and her husband are innocent parties in all this.

I imagine that the OP would would find it rather difficult to pick up a 70lb+  dog being attacked by another dog while trying to protect herself and her family.

Read the entire thread, folks, before leaping to conclusions.

Or at least read all the OP’s comments.

(Having said all this, I think the neighbours might have had the dog put down and I didn’t realise despite the thread. “Crossing the rainbow bridge” isn’t a phrase I’m familiar with. If they did it was the right thing to do.)

Post # 87
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: January 2021 - City, State

Supersleuth :  yeah crossing the rainbow bridge means they’ve passed away usually. 

Post # 88
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

  whoswho :  Did you even read what happened?  How would her having a fence have helped her in this situation when she said the dog ran out while she was returning from a walk entering their cul de sac?  Have you ever been attacked by an animal?  Tried to break up an animal attack?  So easy to sit there and judge when you’re not the one in the middle of what happen….

And her husband being an officer, meaning he has a concealed carry licences here in the states does exactly mean that he has the right to carry a weapon at any and all times.  In fact, anyone, not just police can have the right to carry.  

Post # 89
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

whoswho :  I 100% agree with you. I get that it’s chaotic when something like that happens but for her first instinct is to stand there and scream instead of trying to protect her dog is madness to me. I picked up two of my 75 lbs total dogs in two swoops, it’s hardly an impossible feat. I would rather the dog attack me than them. 

pinkshoes :  I think she was referring to the beginning of the post when OP mentioned that her dog roamed around in their backyard without a fence while the neighbor’s useless electrical fence allowed the dog to attack hers. I think she was asking why OP and the neighbors wouldn’t install a real fence, especially when an aggressive dog is roaming close to their backyard. 

Post # 90
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

bubbles00 :  I agree with you in some ways. During a situation like that it is understandable that someone’s first instinct is to freeze up and not do anything and stand there and scream. However, it is surely not my first instinct to stand there and scream while my dog is being attacked. But they’ve all had countless run ins with this aggressive dog. You would think everyone in this situation would have been smarter. 

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