(Closed) need help and advice from people with similiar catholic church wedding issues

posted 9 years ago in Catholic
Post # 3
233 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

 Unfortunatly, if you want to get married in the Catholic church you can only follow the annulment proceedings and hurry up and wait. My friend is going through the same problem, she has an October wedding, starteg the annulment paperwork in July of 2010 and STILL doesn’t have the ok from the church.

 I don’t know if you can reschedule, or think of a different option, like a non-Catholic ceremony. Otherwise I think you may have to wait.

Post # 4
1551 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

I have an annulment pending now.  I was advised mine would take approximately a year.  I have full-blown case before the tribunal because my first wedding WAS a Catholic wedding.

But it sounds like your Fiance may not need all that.  My husband (we got married civilly and will do convalidation later) was raised Catholic,  but married outside the Church without dispensation.  That made his first marriage invalid for lack of canonical form and while he technically needed an annulment, it was pretty much automatic.  Once all his paperwork was submitted to the tribunal, he had the decree of nullity back in about three or four weeks. 

I really can’t tell by your post if your Fiance would qualify for an anullment based on lack of canonical form or not.  It sounds like he was a Catholic married in a non-Catholic church?  IF he was Catholic and was married either by a civil officiant or in a non-Catholic church, WITHOUT a dispensation from the bishop, the annulment is really just a matter of filing the correct paperwork and should only take a month or so.

Talk to your priest.  He will be able to let you know if your Fiance can get an annulment easily or if his marriage is presumed valid and will need to have a formal case opened.  He can also assist you with gathering all of the paperwork you will need (birth certificate, baptismal certificate, marriage and divorce records) and he will submit it on your behalf.

Post # 6
318 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

It sounds like he may just need a Lack of Canonical Form annulment.  My Fiance needed one and it was pretty straightforward.  Once you have the paper work in they say to give it 6 months, but he got his in a few months.  

Basically the Lack of Canonical Form is if a Catholic gets married outside the church without special permission.  However if this “also received blessing from a catholic priest” was a convalidation, then that make the marriage a Catholic marriage and a full annulment would be needed.  

Post # 7
350 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

edgypeanuts hit the nail on the head regarding convalidation.  But it sounds like he just received a blessing and not a convalidation (which would have required him to exchange vows again). 

What I would do in your situation is call my FI’s baptismal parish and request a copy of his “baptism certificate with notation” (you’ll need it anyway for your wedding prep and the tribunal will also want it).  Tell them it’s for a wedding.  On the back of the certificate it will have a section for marriage.  If there is a marriage recorded in the baptismal registry, the secretary will fill in that section.  If there’s no recorded valid Catholic marriage, it will be blank.  Blank = quick lack of form anulment.  Filled in = a problem.

That’s the first thing the tribunal will check.


Post # 9
56 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

We went through a similiar situation.  My fiance was married before but it was a non-secular ceremony at a banquet center.  It only took about 4-5 weeks before we got the annulment paperwork back in the mail.  Each situation is different of course, but hopefully you have a quick turn around too!  Good luck!

Post # 11
350 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

@Simplicitydal: The tribunal does not need the ex-wife to testify in a clear-cut case like this, though they may ask.  All you have to prove is that your Fiance was Catholic at the time of marriage, and that your Fiance was never validly married in the Catholic Church.  Both of those things are easy to prove without a spouse’s involvement, though she may be asked for a statement.

If you’re trying to make a case for anullment based on something like deception or the lack of a committment to a life long marriage, then you really need the spouse to cooperate. 

Post # 12
111 posts
Blushing bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

I had to do the same.  I was married previously, but only had a civil ceremony. My ex essentially used me to get his green card.  We never got married in the church.  The Lack of Canonical Form annulment was pretty painless.  It took maybe 6 weeks.  Filling out the paperwork was a little lengthy because I had to write a biography about myself and my ex why things didn’t work out…etc…etc.  Unless the blessing is considered convalidation, which I’m not sure it was.  That should be on his record.  I think the Catholic church is trying to keep all that info stored at the church you were baptized at.  I would check with them and the church that gave him a blessing.  If it wasn’t convalidated, it won’t be that bad.  I’d just get on that though.

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