(Closed) Need help please! Should I splurge on diamond or get An Asha ring?

posted 6 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Asha or diamond?
    Asha : (20 votes)
    9 %
    Diamond : (124 votes)
    54 %
    You won't know the difference : (21 votes)
    9 %
    You will definitely on know the differene : (63 votes)
    28 %
  • Post # 33
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: March 2012

    DO NOT BUY AN ASHA! I bought one after reading a million good reviews and I was VERY disappointed. Yes, it was super white, but it wasn’t as sparkly as you might want it. And over time (and by time, I mean like 6 months) it becomes cloudy and gross looking.

    I would suggest that you get a Moissanite. It’s MUCH prettier than an Asha AND A diamond. It has way more fire and sparkle and you don’t have to clean it as often because dust doesn’t stick to it as easily! Trust me… go check one out. Some diamond stores can order one in for you to see. You won’t be disappointed!

    Post # 35
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    135 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: July 2013

    If you want a diamond I would splurge and get the diamond.  My engagement ring is from blue nile and I love it!  We spent more than we probably should have on my engagement ring but I will never want to change it.  I doubt I’ll want to upgrade either.  Personally, I like the authenticenty of diamonds.  I don’t care if you don’t have one – more power to you!  However, for me.  I jus knew I needed a diamond and wouldn’t be happy with a diamond look-alike.  Just personal preference. 

    If you want it – I’d go for it!  🙂

    Post # 36
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    56 posts
    Worker bee

    @NocturnalNymph:  If you really want a diamond then you should probably get a diamond. An Asha is not going to last very long nor is is meant to. If price is the main concern then definitely look in to a Moissanite ring. You can get the size you crave without spending as much as you would on a diamond. I woud make sure to look at one in person first. Some people love  the look of a Moissy but others still prefer a diamond. In the end it is your decision. You’re going to be wearing this for the rest of your life so you need to LOVE it. 

    Post # 37
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    191 posts
    Blushing bee

    Team diamond!!!!

    Post # 38
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    1768 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

    @Trilly:  

    @ittybittykittycommittee:  no ladies they don’t exist in nature in the same form. Original mineral is miniscule and green black. Synthetic silicon carbide  is all alteredfor use as a diamond simulant. Genuine gemstone such a sapphire or Ruby that are synthesized are created exactly as it comes out of the ground. no gem quality moissanite exists or has ever existed no question mossanite is a man made created  simulant. No more no less. Sorry.

    Post # 40
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @joya_aspera: I have a Gucci bag which I got when I graduated from College in 1991 and it still looks good today… Also have some Louis Vuitton pieces tha are old and still look good… NOw having said that, I purchased my bags when they were much cheaper than they are today, but they have held up very nicely…. I am a sucker for a nice handbag..

    Post # 41
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    I would go with the diamond personallly… Now I would do a CZ for a secondary ring for travel or as a stand in when mine is at the jewelrs.  If cost is an issue have you looked on ETSY, there are some nice diamond rings on there.. Also, second hand is not a bad way to go, you can get a diamond ring for a fraction of the cost

    Post # 42
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    173 posts
    Blushing bee

    @gemgirl6:  altering something doesn’t make it not a mineral. Gold sure as heck doesn’t exist in the same form in “the wild”, it is extracted from the environment. Iron and other metals exist as ores and require chemical processes to separate inert rock from the metal. Other precious metals also require these processes. Is gold not “genuine gold” because it is alloyed with other metals? Or because you don’t find a gold bar on the side of a mountain, it is not “real genuine gold”?

     

    You sure as heck don’t need to dig a mineral out of the ground for it to be a mineral, or a metal, or a salt. Also, I’ll add no gem-quality moissanite exists that you know of. As SiC crystals do come from outside our Earth’s atmosphere, who knows what’s out there.

     

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    Post # 43
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

    For moissanite officiando’s and others like myself who are interested.Here’s  an article from the Wall Street Journal from back in the day. It includes info  about Jeff Hunter and 3C (the original “developers” of moissanite jewels).  Apparently Jeff Hunters father was a “Cree”, the brother a head hancho at   Cree who manufacturers moissanite. The article covers some of the origin of  moissy. It mentions that the product was emerald appearing! Surprising they  didn’t go that route too!http://online.wsj.com/article/SB885928599171771000.html

    here it is the history:

    Analysts Wait to See If C3’s Fake Gems Pan Out

    By CARRICK MOLLENKAMP | Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNALTwo North Carolina brothers and  their companies are discovering that creating fake diamonds can be as difficult  as mining the real thing.

     

    One company, C3, of Morrisville near Research Triangle Park, went public in  November with the mission of turning a lab-created mineral called moissanite  into brilliant and inexpensive gems resembling diamonds. The other firm, Cree  Research, a more established Durham-based semiconductor-material maker, produces  the material that is the basis for moissanite.

    The companies are run by brothers Jeff Hunter, 40 years old, president of C3,  and Neal Hunter, 35, Cree Research CEO.

    Cree Research Inc.Business: Maker of semiconductor  material

    Six months (Dec. 28)     1997      1996Revenue:$20,313,000$13,528,000Net Income:

    2,640,0002,264,000  Per-share earnings:0.20

    .17Second quarter  Per-share earnings:0.110.03No Glitter

    But their efforts to bring synthetic moissanite gems to market have hit a few  snags. A gem expert at a jewelry-industry trade group who examined 23 gems  provided by C3 says they were grayish and fuzzy. Meanwhile, Cree researchers  have fallen behind schedule in producing material that would allow C3 to  consistently make higher-clarity gems.

    When the company learned of the gem expert’s reviews, it hustled an improved  version of the stone to three Atlanta jewelry stores, where jewelers opined that  C3’s gems looked like diamonds.

    And Cree Research, with an 11-year track record in the fast-moving  semiconductor industry, is confident it can solve the production delays.

    Still, the early problems illustrate the pitfalls of trying to create a  product and introduce it in a tough market. Despite a marketing blitz through  outlets such as Home Shopping Network, for more than 20 years the best-known  pseudo-diamond, cubic zirconia, claims a scant portion of U.S. diamond sales,  which reached $18 billion in 1997.

    The Hunter brothers believe their diamond substitute — which they say will  be higher in quality, and price, than cubic zirconia — will tap a lucrative  market among buyers looking for diamond lookalikes at a tenth of what a diamond  would cost.

    Neal and Jeff Hunter, along with a third brother, Eric, pursued the  possibility of creating a fake diamond in 1995 when they noticed that material  Cree was making resembled emeralds. More tinkering in Cree’s lab resulted in a  material with the same properties as moissanite.

    Cree’s work in semiconductor materials includes the development of a  high-tech blue laser capable of boosting storage on CD-ROMs, and separately,  making products such as light-emitting diodes, or LEDs, that are used in  everything from stadium replay boards to auto-dashboard illuminating  systems.

    A Family Affair

    The forming of C3 (named after the brothers’ father, Charles Cree Hunter, and  their mother’s maiden name, Colvard) in 1995 to produce the gem gave Jeff  Hunter, then a controller at North Carolina State University, a chance to run a  company. Eric Hunter, 38, remains a large shareholder. C3 began studies of the  moissanite, including a 1996 survey of 30 Midwestern jewelry stores, 28 of which  mistakenly identified a C3 pendant as a diamond.

    Buoyed by that kind of response and needing money for research and  development, C3 went public in November, selling three million shares at $15  each. The company said in December securities filings that while it believed its  lab-created moissanite could make it a “superior substitute” for diamonds, the  company didn’t expect to produce revenue until the first half of 1998.

    Under a recent five-year, $12 million agreement between the two companies,  Cree supplies the raw material in the form of three-inch crystals, which C3  slices into smaller bits. The material then is sent to Southeast Asia for  fastening and returned to C3, where the moissanite is graded for quality.

    To examine the new diamond substitute and alert jewelers that it was headed  to market, James Shigley, a gem expert at the Gemological Institute of America,  the Carlsbad, Calif., industry trade group, requested samples of synthetic  moissanite from C3 last summer. The institute this week will release a report  based on Dr. Shigley’s study.

    “People experienced at looking at diamonds will say this doesn’t look like a  diamond,” Dr. Shigley says. “When you compare moissanite against the diamond, it  tends to have a grayish color. They don’t look sharp.” Still, his report  projects synthetic moissanite could become widely available as a diamond  imitation.

    Told of the findings, C3 said that Dr. Shigley had seen early-stage gems, and  that improvements had been made.

    That may be so. C3 representatives last week accompanied a Wall Street  Journal reporter to three Atlanta retail stores to have the company’s  later-stage jewels examined. The first jeweler conducted a standard test that  measures heat generated by carbon — present in both diamonds and moissanite —  and concluded the .69-carat stone was a diamond. A second jeweler, certified by  the Gemological Institute, studied the gem more closely, and appraised it at  $2,700. A third jeweler conducted a less-scientific test, looking at the stone  only under a small magnifying glass. He, too, said the fake stone was a  diamond.

    These jewelers’ responses may portend well for C3 once the gems are rolled  out. But Cree has run into production problems. Ten researchers are behind  schedule in coming up with material that would allow C3 to make higher-quality  gems that are graded on the same color scales as diamonds. Currently, Cree is  producing moissanite with a color grade that could be used in bracelets, which  have smaller cuts of gems, but not in rings. C3 wants gems with a higher grade,  says Jeff Hunter.

    An Unmet Deadline

    “C3 set up a pretty aggressive schedule,” Neal Hunter says. “We have not hit  the schedule.”

    Of course, the stakes are highest for C3. Lorraine Maxfield, an analyst at  Paulson Investment in Portland, Ore., notes that C3’s stock has fallen 33% from  its IPO price because some investors thought they were buying a stock that would  quickly soar. When it didn’t, and the company didn’t release any news beyond the  Cree contract in its first months, the sell-off began.

    For Cree, analysts say a successful gem could be a big boost, but  disappointing sales wouldn’t be a disaster. Neal Hunter estimates that 5% to 10%  of Cree’s $43 million in projected revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30  will come from C3 orders.

    Now, with C3 promising to have its product in stores this summer, a big  question is whether there will be a strong demand for the fakes.

    “That’s a big if,” says Ms. Maxfield of Paulson, the underwriter for C3’s  initial public offering.

    Jerry Ehrenwald, president of International Gemmological Institute, a New  York-based trade group, says he thinks C3’s gems look like diamonds. But he adds  he can’t imagine a husband saying, “Honey, instead of a diamond, I’m going to  give you a moissanite.”

     

    Post # 44
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    4258 posts
    Honey bee
    • Wedding: February 2009

    @RedHeadKel:  you have to clean moissy lress than diamond, as far as oil attraction goes.  But I still clean mine often because I like clean rings.

    Post # 45
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    1768 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

     @ittybittykittycommittee:   “I’ll add no gem-quality moissanite exists that you know of. As SiC  crystals do come from outside our Earth’s atmosphere, who knows what’s out  there.”

    Now going to the realm of anything is possible! Yes, you’re right, anything is possible and maybe someday a planet rife with cubic zirconia or a silicon carbide that is large and white like a diamond, may be discovered, but in the mean time all we have is today.  Wink

    you also said: “why else would you spend the time to ensure all of us are so *educated* about  the rings on our hands”

    This is a ring board, people come here for help and information! Providing accurate facts rather than the romatnticized erroneous marketing speak about simulants such as  moissanite/Amora gem/Asha/CZ  is appropriate. There is nothing wrong with simulants–they’re affordable and beautiful. Am sure your moissy ring is lovely. However as much as one may wish it, moissanite is not a gemstone, it’s a man made creeated “jewel” as even C&C calls it…

    @NocturnalNymph:  OP: have you made any decisions?

    Post # 46
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    730 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: January 2013

    @NocturnalNymph:  any ashas I’ve seen in person are very plastic-y and quite “dead” looking. Very gray/blue and somewhat lifeless. I’ve seen them here and on other boards, photographed beautifully! If these are indeed your only two choices, definitely get a diamond. 

    If cost is still really an issue, then I’d investigate other options as well, like white sapphires or moissanite. 

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