Post # 1
Of bees whose DHs got bad SA results.
Gutted by the news of DH’s results. The initial diagnoses is severe oligoasthenoteratozoospermia, which I suppose is just a really long word to explain why were almost at that one year with no luck mark. Almost every parameter is wayyyy below the normal range. Their suggestion for treatment is straight to IVF with ICSI, since his motile count is too low for IUI. Realistically speaking this is not an option for us.
I have no idea what our next step should be, and we still haven’t counted me out yet. I’m just so down, at this point I’m just praying for a miracle. And to make matters worse, AF is carded to show tomorrow and Darling Husband is out of the country. So sad bees.
Post # 3
I don’t have any answers, but I just wanted to say I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. This is difficult news to digest, and it certainly doesn’t help that Darling Husband is out of the country and AF is looming. I believe that hamikay had some luck with the naturo helping her DH’s numbers, so that might be an option. I’ll be hoping for the best for you!
Post # 4
I am so sorry =( SO sorry.
Post # 5
Ugh. I am so sorry you are dealing with this 🙁 There is really no way to prepare for this type of news, and I’m sorry that you are now having to face this. Miracles happen every day, so you are doing the best thing possible by remaining optomistic.
The plus side is that your Darling Husband has sperm. I know there has been a couple bee’s on this board who found through SA that their Darling Husband had NO sperm. Like 0.
Are you up for continuing to TTC naturally, while saving for IVF as a last resort?
Big hugs my dear. I’m so sorry for the news. It really doesn’t come so easy for a lot of us, despite what we seem to think/hope for before entering this journey.
Post # 6
@picturemeurs: I’m sorry about your DH’s results 🙁 My Darling Husband had 1% morphology, and he cut back on smoking and took 3 Fertility Blend vitamins per day. After three months his SA came back normal, and shortly after we got a BFP. I know everyone’s story is different but I hope this SA success story gives you a little hope. Hugs.
Post # 7
@picturemeurs: i’m so sorry, lovely lady 🙁 @hardtoconcentrate: is right, my hubby had some low numbers, only one was officially under ‘normal range’ but the other two parts were low. He had just had the flu a month or so earlier, so we partly attributed it to that. But I also thank my Naturo for ‘fixing’ him too. He suffers from IBS and she said that the constant inflamation in his gut would be inhibiting sperm production, so she treated a lot of his stomache problems. She also gave him a new Multi-Vitamin, and told him to take a few other supplements like CoQ10. And, she got him to make soe lifestyle chages, we stopped using plastics and changed to glass containers, for instance. Something changed, his numbers went up after the next test, and more importantly, his libido went back up too.
I don’t know how healthy your hubby is, but their health is really important when it comes to TTC, especially if their SAs come back low – and I think a lot of people underestimate the role the man plays in it all. But, they also seem to respond fairly well to treatment and lifestyle and diet changes – so don’t lose hope!!!
All the very best, I’ll be checking in on you xx
Post # 8
@picturemeurs: I am so sorry you’re going through this. Having been there, I know just how gutting it can be. Darling Husband had NO sperm in his initial SA. NONE. He was referred to a urologist who suggested doing a biopsy to make sure he even makes sperm. He did and we did another surgery to explore what was happening. It was discovered he was blocked on both sides and the doctor was able to repair one side completely. That was last February. I got my BFP in July (with IUI, but that’s because I also have issues of my own). I know our situations are a bit different, but do know that sometimes it can be fixed, without doing IVF with ICSI. Doctors tend to jump right to that because it’s the easiest and has the best results. They don’t like to factor cost into the equation. As PP have said, there are ways to work around it without surgery. I was even once told that Clomid can help.
Wishing you all the luck in the world! Please feel free to DM me if you have any questiosns!
Post # 9
@picturemeurs: I’m sorry you’re going through this. We got the same results for my Darling Husband back in June and I was very sad. In fact, it was the hardest part of my TTC journey so far. I’m sorry. 🙁
We’re doing IVF with ICSI now but did try some other steps first. Here’s some of what I would recommend:
1) Get the test repeated. If it’s really bad it will probably remain pretty bad, but we did find that there was some variability between my DH’s different results.
2) There are supplements that are recommended, many of which my Darling Husband tried. There is FertileAid for men which is perhaps the easiest option. It didn’t work for us, but has for some other people (I think probably people with less severe sperm issues). We have also tried diet and lifestyle changes (no laptop on the lap, less alcohol and caffeine, etc.)…again, didn’t work for us but have worked for others.
3) See a urologist or an REI who focuses on male infertility (we’ve seen both). They will be able to do some thinking about what might be the causes of your DH’s poor SA and potential solutions if there are any. For my Darling Husband this involved the repair (interventional radiology embolectomy) of a large varicocele he had, testing of hormones (testosterone, etc.), and genetic testing (which was recommended for us because his counts were so bad). The recommendations will be different for each person though, of course.
4) There is a great book that my Darling Husband and I both read called “How to Make Love toa a Plastic Cup: A Guy’s Guide to the World of Infertility.” It is written by a man with a very low sperm count and is a sort of humorous take on the whole thing yet also educational. I think it helped my Darling Husband. A lot of it is about IVF though so may not be quite as applicable to you.
Feel free to PM me with any questions or for support!
Post # 10
@picturemeurs: Sorry about the news. ((((HUGS))))
Post # 11
@picturemeurs: I am so very sorry to be reading this. I don’t have any advice, but I will keep you both in my thoughts and prayers. I can’t even come close to imagining all the mixed emotions you must be feeling and I wish I could just reach through the computer and give you a hug.
Post # 12
@hardtoconcentrate: @ChuckNorris: Thank you lovely ladies for your kind words and support.
@StaceyA: Thank you, we’re trying to look at the bright side of things. I keep telling myself the situation may be far from ideal, but there is still some chance for it to happen. Uhm not sure what our game plan is going forward. I’m going to an OBGYN thursday, so hopefully he can give us a referral to a urologist.
@lilybugg78: This gives me so much hope. Might pm you for details of the fertility meds.
@hamikay: I actually have been thinking alot about your Darling Husband situation a lot in the days leading up to the results. Darling Husband has not been diagnosed with IBS but he definitely has some stomach problems. I’m thinking/hoping its all related and fixing one will fix the other. Thanks about the suggestion with the plastics, would definitely be getting rid of those at home. I think since we’re both at healthy weights, we’ve been fooling our self that we’re also healthy inside. Definitely time for a diet/lifestyle change.
@Candy_Nee: I’ve read your story over and over today, thank you for sharing here once again. Would definitely take you up on that pm offer.
@nyckitten: Thank you for your advice. I’m sorry your journey has been so hard too. Wishing you all the best with IVF and ICSI. Would definitely looking into the steps you recommended and seek an appointment with a urologist.
@crazydogmom: @MrsR4ever: Thank you for all the hugs.
Thank you ladies, I feel a little more hopeful now, and so lucky to have you girls to talk (and cry) to.
Post # 13
@picturemeurs: Thanks for posting this. I think this was exactly what I needed too.
Post # 14
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I can’t help with the success story, but I can wholeheartedly recommend seeing a fertility-friendly urologist. Often the root cause of a poor sperm count can be treated, although not always. It is worth the time and effort for sure.
Post # 15
@Mrs. Lox: Thank you for the advice, I’m going to ask for a recommendation fo one from my doctor tomorrow.
Post # 16
@picturemeurs: p.s. – if you can, see if perhaps you can get a referral to a urologist who specializes in fertility (or at least has it as an area of interest). There are all sorts of urologists, some who know more about fertility than others. Also, there are certain REI’s that specialize in male factor infertility too who may give an additional perspective. We found our urologist and our REI (male infertility specialist) gave somewhat different explanations, advice, etc.