Neg OPK and Charting Questions

posted 5 months ago in TTC
Post # 2
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

allsmiles92 :  the best thing to do when temping is to do it at exactly the same time every morning AND use a fertility tracker app (like Fertility Friend) to input the data. That way you won’t be able to ‘miss’ when/if you ovulated. It will take about 3 months worth of data for the app to predict when you’ll ovulate on the 4th cycle. Opk’s are a little different since some of them only test for LH, others for estrogen too, and depending on what time of day you ovulated (if at all) and what time you checked, yes, you could’ve missed it. 

Post # 3
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: May 2014

allsmiles92 :  your picture doesn’t seem to be loading

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception/The Gallery

allsmiles92 :  Your temperatures are fluctuating quite a bit and that last temp. is awfully low. Do you track other fertile signs as well (cervical mucus, etc)? Also, are you using a fertility monitor like the Clear Blue Easy with the smiley face or the dip sticks you can buy more cheaply on Amazon?

It could be you just missed your surge (for some women it only lasts a couple of hours) or perhaps you haven’t O’d yet. I’m tempted to say, though the last temp is likely off a bit, it probably indicates a dip of some sort and would suggest O. See if it goes up and stays up the next 3 days.

Also, I highly suggest reading Taking Charge of Your Fertility; it’s like the charting bible and SO helpful. https://www.amazon.com/Taking-Charge-Your-Fertility-Anniversary/dp/0062326031/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494861934&sr=8-2&keywords=taking+charge+of+your+fertility

 

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: July 2016

allsmiles92 :  charting only really tells you what is going on after the fact. your chart has no obvious ovulation shift on it but time will tell. 

you should put your opks in to fertility friend. knowing what days you tested and got a negative is actually useful info for FF and us.

oh, and if you are using an opk daily while it’s possible you would miss the positive opks, you’d at least see it dark for a day or more.

Post # 7
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2016

DrunkInLove :  I wouldn’t call a 97.0 temperature “awfully low.” I regularly temp below 97.0 shortly before my temp shift.

Post # 10
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2015

allsmiles92 :  It is completely possible to miss a positive OPK.  My OB told me after my first cycle experience with OPKs and never seeing a positive, it’s completely possible that the LH surge only lasted for a few hours, and that happened to be during one of my 12-hour windows that I didn’t test.

My bbt is often crazy pre-ovulation, as well.  It’s nothing to be concerned of.

Post # 11
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception/The Gallery

wineandthings :  I didn’t mean that in a bad way, but it’s quite a large shift from where the other temps were averaging. I didn’t mean to cause alarm–sorry OP!

Mine dip low also, but it’s more the pattern that matters–and sometimes one outlier temp can screw things up. *Shrug* I’m certainly no expert!


Post # 13
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: September 2015

allsmiles92 :  Not all women see a dip before a rise for ovulation.  The typical rule of thumb is a 0.2 degree F increase based on your highest bbt from the past 6 days, but sometimes that’s not even clear, unfortunately.  

I do recommend OPKs and bbt.  The cycle I didn’t catch my LH surge, I noticed that my OPKs were almost positive that morning and evening, it was lighter the next morning, then I got my bbt rise 3 days after what I assumed to be my positive OPK.

You’ll get the hang of it as you get more in-tune with your cycles.  Until then, feel free to ask everyone on here for opinions and experiences 🙂

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception/The Gallery

allsmiles92 :  Correct. OPKs are helpfull but the only way to confirm O is to see 3+ days of elevated temps. above your coverline.

From fertilityplus.com:

What you are looking for is a temperature shift of at least .4 degrees over a 48-hour period to indicate ovulation. This shift should be above the highest temperatures in the previous six days, allowing one temperature to be thrown out as inaccurate (fluke, illness). Perhaps the best way to explain this is to show an example.

coverline.jpg - 120843 BytesIn the image above, the seven BBTs before ovulation are 97.2, 97.3, 97.8, 97.4, 97.2, 97.3, 97.0 then it jumps to 97.7 and then 98. Ovulation most likely occurred on the day with the 97.0 and you can comfortably draw a coverline at 97.6. You just ignore the 97.8 on day 10.

After you see a temperature shift for at least three days, or at the end of your cycle, you can draw a coverline between your follicular phase and luteal phase temperatures. With luck, it is easy to see a clear shift and draw your line between the highest follicular phase BBT and the lowest luteal phase BBT as in the sample above. The main reason for drawing this line is just to clearly delineate that your chart is biphasic.

http://www.fertilityplus.com/faq/bbt/bbtfaq.html

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