New baby with an anti-vaxx cousin.

posted 2 months ago in Parenting
  • poll: How to POLITELY tell cousins they can’t visit new baby.
    Just be direct with them privately. : (183 votes)
    81 %
    Make a generic post on Facebook and hope they see it. : (2 votes)
    1 %
    Just avoid them for as long as you can. : (20 votes)
    9 %
    I’m only here for the comments. : (21 votes)
    9 %
  • Post # 31
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    Bumble Beekeeper

    Of all the stupid morons weighing down the planet with their idiocy, anti-vaxxers are among the worst. We just had to get our baby the MMR vaccine 6 months early because we’re traveling to an area with an active measles outbreak. 

    Anyway…I’d avoid them if possible but if pressed I would be very direct.

    Post # 33
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2019 - City, State

    LilliV : I didn’t even know you could “interview” pediatricians OR that some day cares don’t admit kids without vaccines. So, thanks for the education on both fronts! 

    Post # 34
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    Buzzing bee

    So no advice here at all, but in a similar situation and hoping to piggyback on this conversation:

    I have a good friend who is anti-vax (although she may have changed her tune on the MMR recently) and have suspicions that a number of acquaintances do not vaccinate or fully vaccinate their kids. I plan to limit interactions with those folks during the baby’s first 6 months, but is there a safe in-between with interacting with anti-vaxxers? Practically speaking, I live in a city with a moderately large unvaccinated population and the city is forecasted to have a measles outbreak this year, so I know I’ll be on playgrounds and public transport with potential carriers just as a part of my regular life. What is a reasonable amount of precaution in that context?

    Post # 35
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    Buzzing bee

    What really irks me about anti vaxxers is the fact that they think they’re SoOoOoO SmArT because they’ve somehow managed to out think science and decades of research lead by world class, brilliant individuals who… thanks to them, I’m able to sit on Weddingbee all day and spout off at the mouth and not have to even WORRY about smallpox, measles, polio, etc.

    It’s such a privledged position to be an anti-vaxxer, which is the most infuriating thing. The essential oils and crystals are buying them a false sense of security because the rest of us have enough freaking common sense to get our kids vaccinated. 

    Also not going to mention the correlation of mommy anti vaxxers I know and their propensity to also be entangled in online MLM businesses…

    Post # 36
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2019 - City, State

    larissakay :  great question!!!! Also following for this answer! 

    Post # 37
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    tiffanybruiser :  ugh this! I live in right near big measles outbreak And my daughter is just 6 months old. I’m freaking out about whether to vaccinate early and I’m super stressed every time I take my son to the playground. He’s three and fully vaccinated but I am not (not for lack of trying), which means neither I nor baby girl have any immunity. Because the outbreak is occurring in the orthodox Jewish community and they are recognizable because of clothing and style choices I basically run from our nearby park when I see them coming – which feels completely awful…. 

    Post # 38
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    Busy bee

    tiffanybruiser :  “Of all the stupid morons weighing down the planet with their idiocy,”

    I wish I could ‘like’ this comment more than once

    Post # 39
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    Bumble Beekeeper

    drdeebee :  Ugh I hear you. We are actually headed to Israel in a couple weeks which is why we decided to do the early vaccination (got it at dd’s six month appointment). I did my own research about it, and then we talked to our pediatrician, who didn’t bat an eye in recommending we do the early MMR given where we are going. It’s what’s recommended by the CDC too. From what I understand, the “risk” of vaccinnating early is that the vaccine may not be as effective as it woudl be on the normal schedule. So for that reason babies who get the MMR early still have to get the usual course beginning at 12 months.

    Post # 40
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    Busy Beekeeper

    misstomorris :  oh yes! After getting some recommendations from my local mom friends and checking who took my insurance I called and made appointments to meet the doctors in my last trimester. Apart from the vaccine issue my choice came down to hours, attitudes toward nurses//NP (one office was very oddly proud about not having any NPs which I thought was stupid snobby especially since I absolutely LOVE the NPs at our pediatrician), and in-office access to services such as a lactation consultant, lab, and x-rays. I cannot even begin to tell you how much easier life is when you you have a sick kid and you can walk down the hall, get a chest x-ray or lab test, and then walk back to talk to your doctor about it. If I had to drive back and forth to a hospital for that stuff with a sick kid it would be miserable. Oh and being able to see the NP who is also an LC in the first week for daily weight checks, bilirubin checks, AND breastfeeding help all in one appointment? Amazing. 

    Post # 41
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    Honey bee

    elodie2019 :  This is so very, very wrong. Diseases have stages during which there are no signs and symptoms of the disease or the signs of the disease are so slight that they are ignored. (Incubation, prodromal stages) Nevertheless the risk of contagion from contact with these people is very real.

    It is my fervent hope that with all these outbreaks, laws will be passed making it illegal to send an unvaccinated child to school.

     

    Post # 42
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    tiffanybruiser :  yeah but that risk is exactly what I’m worried about. My own situation is that the vaccines for some reason don’t stick. I’ve been vaccinated multiple times and later titers always show no antibodies. I’m worried about her having the same issue and no one seems to know if it’s more likely with early vaccination only that early vaccinations are less likely to “stick” long term. I don’t want her to have to count on herd immunity like I do… bleh

    Post # 43
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: October 2017

    I forgot about the coxsackie virus… my daughter brought that home to me, I had to swallow lidocaine so I could eat and drink, my pain level was at an 8

    Thank GOD she didn’t get it (hand foot and mouth disease is a form of coxsackie) but she brought that right home to me

    It’s an incubation period on top of people being exposed and carrying the virus without getting sick with symptoms

    Do you think people went to Disney land sick with the measles and that’s how the Disney outbreak happened?

    Post # 44
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: October 2017

    drdeebee :  they are finding that the Rubella portion of the mmr vaccine is no longer life long, I didn’t have immunity when I was pregnant, they discovered that during routine prenatal blood work. I couldn’t get vaccinated while pregnant though, I had to get it in the hospital after she was born

    Post # 45
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    Bumble Beekeeper

    drdeebee :  Ah I understand – that’s definitely more complicated then. I’m sorry you’re in this position.

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