Post # 1
I had been out of the job market until recently when I lost my job. I received a job offer but there’s some “rules” about vacation time that I have never heard of before and was wondering if any of you have been through something similar.
My boyfriend and I booked a trip for a week in June. Actually, the trip is a week long and in addition, I would like to take a Thursday and Friday off for his sister’s wedding which is out of state. Per my friends that work in HR, they said not to mention this during my interview, but to bring it up instead when I receive the offer, which I did.
I got the call from HR a couple of days ago offering me the job. We discussed salary and that’s when I mentioned the already scheduled vacation to her. She said that should not be a problem but things like that are up to the manager. I said I needed to know for sure it would be approved. My boyfriend needs to schedule his vacation time well in advance so it’s very difficult for him to reschedule. The HR lady said she would have the manager call me. In the meantime, she send me a PDF of the company’s employee handbook and some other paperwork to fill out.
I went through the handbook and the vacation policy is very vague. It states that vacation time is dependent on the needs of the department.
This morning I got a call from the guy that would be my manager. He said that new employees are not allowed to take vacation within the first 6 months of employment. I asked if this was a company-wide rule as I didn’t see anything like that in the handbook. He said it was “his rule”. I explained the vacation and wedding days we already have scheduled and he was pretty inflexible and said “if you want the job, those are the rules”.
I asked if I could have the weekend to think about it, and he said yes.
My HR friends have never heard of not being able to take vacation the first 6 months. I am a bit annoyed and this guy kind of rubbed me the wrong way because I don’t think I’m asking for anything extravagant.
Have any of you had to deal with this? I’m not that desperate for a job (I have another interview scheduled for next week) but the salary and location are what I was looking for so I’m torn.
Post # 2
I’ve definitely heard of not being able to take vacation the first 6 months, but the manager’s attitude would bother me, too.
Post # 3
sunnierdaysahead2: My first job did have a rule about not taking PTO in the first 60 or 90 days, but it was written in the handbook and my managers were relatively flexible about the policy.
Honestly, I find it a bit concerning that your potential manager makes up arbitrary rules about vacation and is being so rigid about them – I’m guessing he could be difficult to work for and this is just a glimpse of it.
Also, if you don’t take vacation for half of the year, how are you supposed to use the PTO days you have allotted for 2016?
Post # 4
I’ve also heard of that, and actually is quite generous. I never got any PTO until after the first year.
Post # 5
I don’t think I would be inclined to take the position if that’s how he was going to respond to a request for an already existing vacation. I think commonly for some places they do not offer an “advance” on your PTO hours and you may only use what you have stored and if you take additional time off that you will not be paid for it. I think it’s very strange and if that’s what his stance is then like I had said, I don’t know how I would feel working for this person.
Post # 6
I wouldn’t accept the job, personally. Not because of the time off, but because the boss sounds like a piece of work. I couldn’t spend so many hours a week with a person like that.
Sorry you were met with such a blunt and unwelcoming response to your perfectly legitimate question 🙁
Post # 7
mrscross1020: I’ve heard that too – I didn’t expect to get paid for time I didn’t earn, but this company gives you everything up front to use within the year you’re hired, not the calendar year. His attitude bothered me too. I’m glad to hear I’m not completely overreacting.
Post # 8
He sounds like a dick. I wouldn’t want to work under him
Post # 9
ItWasntMe: Ugh! So you had to wait an entire year to take a day off! I thought this unwritten rule was bad!
Post # 10
sunnierdaysahead2: Oh now this makes more sense as to why this is maddening if you already have it up front! Yikes! You’re definitely not overreacting. That would be a dealbreaker for me taking the position unless it was absolutely to die for or complete necessity.
Post # 11
My current job contract has a no vacation days for the first six month clause. My previous job had it for three months. I thought it was normal. That said, my schedule is really flexible because I’m the boss, so when I want a day off, I just work overtime beforehand until I build up the seven hours I need to take a day. If not for that it would have sucked a bit.
Post # 12
Wow, I’ve never heard of that. My first job out of college I had to start and then take time off the following week! That manager sounds like an ass and I wouldn’t want to work for him anyways. 6 months is a long time to expect anyone not to take time off, esepcially if it’s over the summer.
Post # 13
- Wedding: November 2019 - City, State
sunnierdaysahead2: I’ve heard of the 6 months rule, and I’ve also worked at a company that had the 1 year rule. That was a loooong year haha! Its very strange that he wouldnt allow you to even take unpaid time for your vacation if you wouldnt have been entitled to paid vacation time. He sounds like a jerk to work for, and I’d second guess my decision to work for him.
Post # 14
sunnierdaysahead2: I interviewed for a job with a similar rule, but it was no PAID vacation in the first x months of the job. I would ask if it’s possible to take the vacation as leave-without-pay. I know some people (like my mom) would say it’s irresponsible to turn down a job because of an upcoming vacation, but someone who is that inflexible and with that kind of attitude is not someone I’d want to work under long-term.
Post # 15
sunnierdaysahead2: I had a job that was the first 90 days, but I had a vacation scheduled and my manager let me take it anyway. Once I accrued the 90 days, I put it PTO during a week that I was actually there and used those hours.
Personally… I wouldnt take it. It sounds like this guy is inflexible and rude – do you really want to work him for? If you’re not desperate, I’d keep looking.