(Closed) No faith in the legal system left for me! (Vent)

posted 9 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

I don’t understand, what was the charge? You say the cop was on your husband’s side, which means (I assume?) that he didn’t get a driving citation. So what was he charged with? 

And what you need to understand, I think, is that the prosecutor does not work to help you. The prosecutor’s job is to prove the charge. Your job is to prove the charge is not true. The whole legal system is based on the idea of zealous representation of both sides. That is why you really should have had a lawyer. If you can’t afford one, you could’ve gotten a public defender (not ideal, but better than going pro se).

Pro se defendants are almost always going to lose in court because you don’t know the rules. Like the fact that the prosecutor has no obligation to bring any evidence to court that doesn’t help her case. If you wanted that document to get entered, you should have brought it with you.

As for you thinking that other evidence that she offered was inappropriate (hearsay, for example), did you object to it with a concise reason as to why it was inappropriate? THIS is why you need a lawyer because it would be too hard to learn all the rules yourself and the judge cannot do your job for you in defending your case. 

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: August 2011

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@CorgiTales: Exactly!

Post # 7
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

I understand the frustration in the fact that you do basically need an attorney because it seems unfair that you have to pay money to defend yourself when you’re right. But the bottom line is that our legal system, which is already frustratingly slow, would come to a grinding halt if it didn’t have the multitude of rules enacted to keep things moving in an efficient manner. And it just wouldn’t work for people to try to learn all the rules themselves every time they go into court. So we have an imperfect system where lawyers are needed as intermediaries to the system so that we have a legal system that actuall works. It sucks, but I guess if I were you I’d weigh the outcome of losing this case (whatever fine was assessed + points + insurance going up) vs. the cost of a lawyer (you can figure probably around 200/hr)

Post # 10
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

Well if you just want someone to agree that the legal system is dumb, I’ll sign onto that. 🙂 There is more than one thing I’d change. lol.

Post # 11
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Bumble Beekeeper

I’m so sorry. That is very frustrating. I hope this works out for you.

It kind of sounds like old dude and his wife are milking for a settlement. Shady, shady.

Post # 12
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2009

Ok, I am a little confused…was this an accident, or just strictly a moving violation? Because if something was submitted to your insurance company, they should be going to court in your defense. The liability part of your insurance is there to help cover lawyer costs for you if you get taken to court due to an accident. I’m actually surprised that it even went so far as to even go to a courtroom…if its an accident

Post # 15
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2009

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@cbee: oh gotcha, Liability only and Progressive = 2 strikes for you. Sorry about that 🙁 But hey, now you know why their rates are so cheap!! Undecided

Edit: I really think you should get some kind of lawyer, which I ‘m sure you probably realize by now. Also, can you get a copy of the hospital report or whatever from the night of the accident stating that the old guy was fine then? I mean, I know sometimes you feel like crap the next couple of days, but I’m just thinking there’s got to be proof that he wasn’t that hurt.

You know, they are committing fraud, btw. Maybe you could call Progressive’s liability dept and explain the situation, and see if you can get a fraud investigator to hear your story? If they can find sufficient evidence, they might defend you then. Just throwing out ideas

Post # 16
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2011

I have lingering faith in the legal system as well. Not so much lawyers or the profession but the process! Its very corrupted

I have seen some pretty disgusting verdicts that were the result of money, connections and overall lack of common sense.

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