Maybe it’s just me, but the “I paid X amount of money to have a nice dinner/quiet flight/whatever else” argument sounds as selfishly entitled as the parents/children who are getting blasted by the pro-child restriction group. Those parents paid just as much as you, and I can guarantee you that their goal is to have a nice dinner/quiet flight/whatever else also…NOT to annoy you. You can’t say that someone else is acting entitled and/or selfishly by bringing a young child to a restaurant and then say that young children should not be allowed to that restaurant at all…that makes you equally selfish.
The sweeping substitution of the word “brat” for “child” (as in “Brat bans,” from the original article, or even throughout the arguments on here) is gross. Children misbehave, often because it’s how they learn boundaries and acceptable behavior, but an episode of misbehaving does not mean the child is a brat. Yes, there are brats in the world, and they grow up to be bitches and assholes, regardless of how they were parented. But don’t relabel children as a whole with the term brat.
Adult-only resorts: I’ve got no issues with them, I get it, I’ve been to them, they can be very nice (and I’ve found that just because there aren’t children doesn’t mean there aren’t obnoxious people.) But I’m fundamentally opposed to banning children from first class or specific flights on commercial airlines. Flying commercially is basically public transportation: If you can afford to purchase a ticket, you have the right to fly, as long as you are not violating federal aviation laws. I’ve flown first class and it’s not like you are completely isolated from coach; you can still hear kids in the back. And–gasp! The horror!–I’ve flown in first class with my son, when he was an infant. (He slept the entire flight.) Don’t like the sound of other people? How about a pair of headphones? If you can’t deal with being around all types of humanity, charter a private flight.
Young children should not be allowed in R-rated movies because the content is not appropriate, NOT because their crying might irritate you.
I take my children with me just about everywhere, because 1) excellent manners/behavior in public requires practice and 2) as a previously single mom, I really didn’t have a choice. So at this point, my kids are pros at airline travel, hotels, restaurants, doctor’s offices, grocery stores, being at the office with us, etc. Next on our list is to start taking them to music performances. (My kids are 8 and 5, by the way.) Are they perfect? Hell no! Neither am I. I’ve done the looooong walk from the back of the store out to our car with a screaming toddler under my arm PLENTY. I expect excellent behavior and manners from my kiddos and I have no desire for my children to pitch a fit in public…but that’s because I expect the best of them, not because I’m worried about what someone else thinks.
All this coming from a woman who admittedly does not consider herself to be particularly patient with children! I love my children but not anyone else’s, if I’m honest. But the notion that it would be OK ban them outright really gets under my skin.