Post # 32
Thank you everyone for your responses! Great feedback. I love this site. Wonderful varied points.
I think in the end, even if it’s a lot of work to edit pictures….that’s what one pays for and like Crayfish said – making a good point – “Why on earth would a photog want a client to receive anything less than their best processed work to show to all their family and potential future clients?!” INTEGRITY!!!!
I know many people that can take pictures but just taking a picture is not the end of the work. It’s the same with video. It doesn’t finish when you say cut. One should get what they pay for. No matter what software you use, if you are taking images of people, you really should know how to edit, I’m sorry to say.
And never trust a lady who says, “I’ll take care of it” LOL
Have a great evening ladies!!!!
Post # 33
@Vanielle: For $700/hour, you deserved edited pics! I edit wedding photography (second job), and I would never deliver photos that aren’t 100% edited. So unprofessional!
Post # 34
@Vanielle: Is it possible to see a couple of the photos to get some idea about how much work would be involved in editing/retouching? It’s very odd that your skin came out looking “splotchy” in the photos even though it isn’t usually – possibly a makeup artist or lighting problem?
Agree that your planner definitely should have double-checked exactly what you wanted if she was unsure, and passed on appropriate details to the photographer. Also, not getting a contract for a major vendor written up and signed is a huge error for a planner to make. That was their job and they failed at it, so I’m not surprised you are unhappy!
Post # 35
@ceebree: Please remember that just because that is what YOU do does not mean that is the standard in the industry or that everyone else should do it.
Post # 36
@Vanielle: I only mention the contract because it sounds to me like your photographer did deliver their end of the agreement, you just had different definitions of what the words “editing” and “rights” mean and that is what a contract is for. Unless you specifically communicated with the photographer in advance about whether or not he was able to Photoshop tan lines and whether he would be releasing copyright to you then I don’t know that he deserves a terrible review. He doesn’t owe you editing that he didn’t agree to and it’s entirely possible that he doesn’t know how to do more advanced editing or doesn’t have the software so he is giving you a referral to someone who will be able to do a great job. Obviously if he was able to do it he would likely just give you his hourly rate for that sort of editing, you know?
Post # 37
@crayfish: Read my post again. “Very few of us retouch all photos, only ones for special prints or an album get a bit more than the basic processing like cropping, contrast, exposure.”
I dont understand what you dont agree with. I said we do basic processing on photos.
Edit is culling, post processing is post processing, and retouching is retouching. They are 3 separate things in my eyes. I guess Im old school and edit means culling down to the images I want to keep and process. or lets say I ‘edit’ out the bad ones.
Im not a newbie or a part timer…
Post # 38
@Vanielle: I hope all goes well and sorry your vendors turned out to be ick! 🙁
Totally look into getting your photos worked on more. At least pick the ones you want for prints and have them processed more. 🙂 Tons of services out there for photo processing.
Post # 39
@Vanielle: I have 10 years of editing and photoshopping experience & can add anything you want to the pics, whether you want to change your lipstick, make your eyelashes longer, get rid of zits.. i can do it all….I can even make you skinnier lol, literally there isn’t anything I can’t do and make it look natural and non photoshopped….let me know.. if you want my help
Post # 40
@Vanielle: First of all you had pretty unrealistic expectations of this photographer. Showing up with bad tan lines just expecting them to be photoshopped out in all the pictures is insane. Also, you keep saying your face wasn’t splotchy “because you were tan,” we’ll, images are supposed to be sharp, and so you may just not be used to seeing as much detail in your face as you tend to get with pro pics but I wouldn’t blame the photographer for that. Not wanting your photographer to have commercial usage rights because you just don’t think the photographer deserves to make money off your images is just plain mean spirited. If the image actually turn out good enough TO sell, which is both hard and not a popular practice anyway, you should just be grateful your photographer did that great of a job for you and deserves the bonus compensation. Just my two cents.
ETA: you also take some responsibility for “not making sure he did his job lol” not for getting tan lines and creating an unrealistic scenario where you expected him to photoshop them out of all your pictures? Or hiring a better makeup person so your skin held up under closer inspection? Or leaving everything to your planner that you clearly didn’t have enough contact with? That was unprofessional of him to not have a contract granted, but unfortunately you’re the one that suffers.