(Closed) No vaccination = no school?

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@Kings7911:  Vaccines aren’t 100% effective.  Having a large number of people unimmunized puts everyone at risk, not just the unvaccinated.

Post # 18
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@AB Bride:  I don’t think anyone is saying that immunocompromised children or children with allergies should not be able to attend school. I think they’re saying that children whose parents voluntarily forego or delay vaccinations should not be able to attend.

There is nothing that makes me angrier than anti-vaxers. Nothing.

Post # 19
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@howsweetitis:  Hopefully not.  I’ve come across it though.  Instead of using language that accuses those of being irresponsible when they aren’t (or worse) why not be specific?

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@AB Bride:  The anti-vaccintation movement, at least according to the news, is the bigger reason why kids are not getting vaccinated than those with ligimate medical reasons.   I guess a lot of us were not clear that we understand that there are TRUE medical reasons for not being able to get vaccinated (alergies to eggs being a HUGE one) but what I am exposed to by the media is less my kid would truely get sick, and more scare tactics that have been overturned by medical research. 

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@AB Bride:  Having a medical condition preventing a child from being vaccinated is an unfortunate thing, yes. But that just means parents will have to adjust, if their child can’t attend public school without being vaccinated they’ll have to find another school or homeschool.

Parents of children with a variety of complications have to adjust to doing things differently every day.

Post # 22
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@ValerieBee03:  Or the schools could just allow those kids to attend.  I’m not aware of any publically funded board in Canada that wouldn’t allow someone to attend to school just because a vaccine has a higher probablility of risk for them.

Why should that change?

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@ValerieBee03:  Also, if that is the case, what about the kids who have been vaccinated, but are not immunized?  Should we be testing all of them, and denying public school to the ones who don’t develop immunity?

If not, what makes the two so different?

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I love when parents say “we read the research” and then site the study that shows they cause autism. The one that has been denounced by all scientists and outed as fraudulent.

Just because you read it on some mom’s blog doesn’t make it true!

Post # 25
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@Hyperventilate:  Thank goodness Canada is more accepting of medical conditions than the US.

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@BrandNewBride:  You don’t find that type of discrimination to be sad?

 

Post # 26
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@adoc86:  I don’t know of any province that has required it, at least for my age group.  The vaccination records are sometimes requested, but if no vaccinations are on the record it doesn’t mean that someone can’t attend school.

 

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@AB Bride:  I think we all agree that children whose medical conditions prevent them from being vaccinated are the REASON kids who CAN be vaccinated should be.  

Post # 28
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@peachacid:  Then people should say that.  Look at post #20.  I’ve been harassed in school by teachers for not going to vaccination clinics being done in the school.

Post # 29
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@AB Bride:  You’re right, I absolutely don’t think we should put kids at risk by forcing them to get vaccinated when they have allergies, or other medical issues. I’m also not a believer that ALL vaccinations are necessary. I think that therea are at least some major diseases that should be vaccinated against. At least if MOST of the children were vaccinated, then the chidlren who can’t be would be protected against disease a lot better.

Post # 30
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@ValerieBee03:  Actually, the kids who can’t be vaccinated are the reason everyone else SHOULD get vaccinated!  They shouldn’t be prevented from attending school — the law prevents that, actually — but everyone else should be vaccinated to prevent those kids from getting disease.  

Post # 31
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@AB Bride:  There are two types of exemptions. I grew up in California, I went to kindergarten at 5, which was 1991 to give you the time frame.

There is a Medical excemption and there is Personal Beliefs exemption.

If you are medically exempt, you go to a public school at your own risk.

No one has ever said that medically exempt children will be forbidden to go to public school, so there is no need to claim that the US is not tolerant of medical reasons to not vaccinate. Those children will go to school. So will the ones who do not believe in vaccinations for religious reasons. That seems pretty tolerant to me. If you choose not to vaccinate your child without a medical or religious reason, you can choose to homeschool your child or pay for them to attend a private school.

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