Post # 1
I am in a little bit of a pickle. About 2 months ago my fiance and I decided to get married at a certain venue. I was way excited went in signed the contract my fiance ran in paid with his credit card and went back out. He wasnt interested in the details. Well my fiances wage was frozen due to the economy and we can no longer afford to have a wedding there. I called and was really polite and told them our situation. The women was nasty said i signed a contract and the 1500 dollars was non refundable even though my wedding date isnt for 15 months. I then asked for the owners name and she gave me his e mail. I e mailed the owner and explained our situation. He said the only thing he will do is extend our date so we have more time to come up with th emoney. Extending the date isnt an option we just cant afford a 20,000 dollar wedding now. I e mailed him again telling him this and the women called me back and said we can use the 1500 dollar deposit toward a party or a bridal shower which i thought was nice. My fiance is irate and wants the money back. My fiance NEVER signed the contract I am the only one on the contract. He paid with his credit card but is NOT on the contract so he feels if he wants his money back he should be able to get it since he is not bound by any contract. He wants to call and tell this to them but i dont want to start an all out war. DO you think he has a point? He did not sign the contract his name isnt on it anywhere but on the credit card receipt is his card number and his name.
Post # 3
i never would have thought of this and was curious as it is an interesting argument to get your money back. i just asked my Fiance what he thought and he agreed with your Fiance – that he should be able to get his money back for the reason he said. but then my Fiance also thinks the venue could legally make YOU pay since YOU signed the contract…..don’t know if they would go this far as taking you to court for it. but then i again i imagine you might have to go the same route to make your point and get your FIs money back.
not sure if this helped, just some more things to think about i guess. good luck.
Post # 4
The nonrefundable deposit is pretty standard, and it is probably stated in the contract. The owner offered you a good deal, so I would go with that. It doesn’t matter if your Fiance signed the contract or not. When he made the payment and signed the receipt, he was in essence accepting the terms of the contract. You could take this to small claims court; however, I am sure you would not win this one. I would go with the offer the owner gave you.
Post # 5
@dynamic_duo: You make some great points!
Post # 6
@dynamic_duo: it helped to see someones point of view. I think in the end they screwed up. they should have both of our sigs but didnt. I feel bad going back on my word. I signed i should stick with the contract, but this place is very popular and makes a ton of money why do they need my 1500 dollars so bad? I forgot to mention in my second e mail to the owner i mentioned in the e mail that my fiance didnt sign the contract and thats when he e mailed me back and said that we could have the 1500 as a credit…
I wonder if my Fiance has the upper hand on their mistake..
We will see 🙂
Post # 7
Ps. I thought the offer was nice too. I do love the venue and would love to at least have my shower there.. but my fiance is angery that they were so mean to me when i called and told them my situation.
Post # 8
@AbbeyRachael: maybe give your Fiance a few days to cool down and maybe he wont care so much. i can totally get having to downgrade your wedding due to salary change, then how nice it would be to at least have the shower there! that would save your Maid/Matron of Honor a ton of money too in planning an awesome shower for you!
Post # 9
@AbbeyRachael: I pretty much agree with @PurpleUnicorn:‘s points about how technically maybe Fiance could get his cash back, but you’d likely be on the hook anyway. It was nice of them to offer to apply it to another event (but a bit sucky since they were rude first). Could you maybe wait for Fiance to cool down a bit, discuss how you’d really like to have your shower there, and see what he thinks?
If he’s just really, really upset about it, maybe have him (after calm, calm rehearsals with you) discuss it with the owner and say that he’s very upset by the way you were treated by the woman after you explained your situation so nicely, and that you would greatly appreciate it if you were refunded at least half of your deposit, and the remainder if someone were to book your date 6 months or more before the event date? The company would still earn what they would have had anyway by getting another event, they will have appeased your boyfriend (and saved themselves from some bad publicity *if you think you’d want to throw that in there*), and everyone is ‘happy.’ It never hurts to try.
Post # 10
It is definitely an interesting angle, but I do think they would make YOU pay, even if they refunded your Fiance. Like @NDBee mentioned, Most places will agree to give you the deposit back if someone else books the day you had reserved. This is usually a problem if you have to cancel last minute, but I’m sure they will rebook the place in 15 months time. If they rebook, it’s not really polite (for lack of a better word) to keep your canceled deposit, and the actaul deposit for the same date. Unless you really want the shower there.. if so, you’re all set!
Post # 11
Sometimes places will give you a full refund if someone else takes your date, you should ask about that.
Sorry, but it seems pretty standard to me that you wouldn’t get your money back.
Post # 12
payment is a contract. i’m assuming he signed a credit card receipt? even if he didn’t though, it wouldn’t make a difference.
at least they’re working with you by giving you a credit.
Post # 13
Well, just think if the opposite had happened, and they had given the date to someone else after you’d signed because “technically” since only you signed and he paid, the contract was null and void. You’d be pissed and there’s no way you’d accept that argument from them. You did sign a contract and paid and were in total agreement at the time that that constituted valid payment, so I think the best you can do is accept the credit. Non refundable deposits suck if you have to cancel, but that is their nature- non-refundable.
Post # 14
How long ago was this? Your fiance could call the CC company and ask them to reverse the charges saying he didn’t authorize it. It’s a gamble though because if the company can prove that he did, he’s on the hook. That’s why we have written contracts. I doubt you’d be able to get out of this. Your best bet is to see if they can get your date given to someone else. THEN you can get your money back. Also, you don’t know what could happen later this month. Your Fiance could come into money and your date will be saved!
Post # 15
It sounds like you’re in a sticky situation. I can understand why your Fiance is upset but starting a war is probably going to cause more harm than good. Plus if you could have your rehearsal dinner there that would probably be in the price range or like others mentioned you could have a pretty awesome shower! Hope you are able to work things out!
Post # 16
I think what the venue did and is offerring you is pretty standard.
My parents paid for the venue deposit but they wanted the “Bride” and “Groom” to sign the actual contract.
I would take them up on the offer for rehersal dinner or bridal shower there. You are breaking a contract and personally, I think their offer is generous.