(Closed) Not house broken. Need your help!

posted 4 years ago in Pets
Post # 2
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Worker bee

It sounds like a behavioral thing IMO. If he only does it when you spend extra time away, it might be his way of expressing his displeasure. Some people say that pets dont have the ability to be vengeful, but my dog would destroy things if we spent extra time away from him, like if we had something to do on a weeknight, when we were usually home on week nights. Could you send him to daycare once or twice a week? 

Post # 3
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2014

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Navygirl14 :  

Some dogs can take a loooong time. I have a 3 yr old that I can’t fully trust in the house, but way moreso than the 7 yr old I have. 7 yr old is always crated while we are gone. The 3 yr old can be left on his own out of the crate and is 99.8% fine now.

I hope he’s not hiding in his crate after he pees inside because he’s afraid of the trouble he’ll get into. That won’t help either. Just like when a kid poops his pants. Can’t get mad at him, just keep working with him.

If it were me, and actually it is because he’s like my 7 yr old:

I would crate him while at work. He will likely not go potty in his crate.

Then while home he has very limited access so you can keep an eye on him. We only allow the dogs to be in the living room and kitchen. The other rooms are blocked off. Then you can catch him if he starts to go and take him outside.

What do you do when you see that happening?

Like I said, it took our 3 yr old a loooong time and our 7 yr old will likely never be completely trusted to have the run of the house.

I imagine you’ll be watching your baby close enough that you wouldn’t let him crawl through a pile of poo??

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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2016

Yours sounds just like my older dog. I have a four year old adopted Schnoodle who poops and pees on the floor every time I leave the house. Even if it’s for 10 minutes. He has separation anxiety, so I try not to blame him, but it’s hard. Its not bad enough that he destroys the furniture or howls all day long (anymore) but I believe he’s so anxious that no one is ever coming back for him that he doesn’t see the point of holding it and relieves himself all over my house. We’ve had him for two years and made a bit of progress, but we definitely don’t leave the house without putting a belly band on him to deter him from marking. 

If your pup isn’t displaying any symptoms of anxiety, he could’ve just been fixed too late. Most vets recommend it at 6mo, by a year he was likely already sexually mature, which is what encourages the marking behavior. My anxious dog wasn’t fixed until I adopted him at 2, where my puppy was done at 7 months and never marks. The older one will mark in the house when I’m in the shower or if he gets upstairs by himself, but I try to keep him gated in safe areas when I can’t watch him so I don’t have to worry. The pooping and peeing on the floor ten minutes after a walk is the worst though. Mine usually poops 2-4 times per walk and could pee all day- I feel like he saves it so he can mark more- and doesn’t always get it all quite out so… on my floor it goes.

It’s a chore, but hopefully it won’t be forever. The belly band and gates really help. Make sure you’re cleaning up the accidents with an enzymatic cleaner so he can’t smell his past accidents and want to mark again. He could be lonely and bored, so try one of those toys that provide mental stimulation for when you’re gone or leave the TV on. I take my dogs to daycare once a week, and they’re usually still tired enough the next day that I don’t have to deal with him marking. Also, Bulldogs are notorious for being bad at potty training (both of mine growing up took FOREVER) so maybe just keep working at it! 

Good luck! 

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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2014

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Navygirl14 :  Well, I have a 4 year old dachshund (also named Dexter) who was fixed as early as possible and he still marks around the house. He’s pee pad trained and has a faux grass pad, so it’s not that he has to pee and has nowhere to go, he just likes to mark. I have yet to find a solution that works. “No Go” sprays, enzyme cleaner, etc. have not helped. So I feel you, though I’d never consider getting rid of him over this.

Have you talked to the vet? Is it possible that he has bladder issues? Does he pee in his crate? 

If he doesn’t pee in the crate, then I’d say just keep him in the crate when you’re gone. If you start leaving him out, gate him off in a small, easily cleanable area like the kitchen or bathroom. He should get better eventually, but most dogs, especially smaller ones will have accidents from time to time.

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee

Have you taken him to the vet to rule medical things out? Has your schedule changed recently? How much stimulation does he get — like real play, running around, or mental stimulation and training?

My work schedule changed and my dog started making messes inside due to stress, after we ruled out medical issues with our vet. We put the radio on while we were gone, played with her more, and adjusted our dog walker, and she’s been fine since.

If he does make a mess in the house, do your best to not punish him for it — you said he runs to his crate. He’s likely trying to tell you something, and punishment often misses the mark and the dog doesn’t even know what he’s being punished for. Remove him from the situation and clean it up with him gone. I’m not saying you do punish him, but it can be a factor that might impact his reactions to you.

Talk to a positive trainer and get more input about your exact situation. I don’t see a reason why you would need to give him up. I’m sure it is something behavioral that you can manage once you figure out what clicks. Good luck!

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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2014

I have heard Beagles are stubborn and hard to house train. Bull dogs are also stubborn so you may need extra patience and diligence with this dog. I’m wondering, does he always poop 4 times a day? Could his food be upsetting his stomach? My dogs get fed twice a day and poop twice a day. 

If there’s no medical issue or upset tummy issue, then I would try leashing him to you when you’re home so he can’t sneak off and poop or pee. It also helps with bonding and following cues. You should also keep him crated 100% of the time you’re gone. He’s obviously not ready to be left home alone outside of his crate. I wouldn’t try that again until it’s been 6ish months since the last accident in the house. Every time he poops or pees inside that reinforces the idea that it’s an option for a place to do his business. 

Post # 8
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Bee Keeper

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frenchielover525 :  I don’t believe dogs are vengeful. If your dog was on its own all day and then again at night when he expect you home I think the damaging of your home was due to either bordom, frustration, loneliness or anxiety. Or a mixture of these. 

Post # 9
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Navygirl14 :  OK in dog welfare this is something we see a lot even from dogs bought as puppies. Dogs are social creatures that like company and to move about a lot. Especially the breed mix you’ve chosen. The answer is

– more mental activity and bodily activity. Do you have doggy crèche or daycare near you instead of cage for seven hours?  Crates have their uses in training but that’s far too long for a dog to be left in a cage. Even with an hour for company/dog walking.

– routine and positive re-enforcement. You’ll need to get your dog walker on board with this too. Tons of enthusiastic praise when he’s pooped or peed (and you can train this to command)  

 

It is easily sorted but the dogs basic mental welfare needs to be met before you can expect results from training. 

Post # 10
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Busy bee

Three things worked for us when our dog was close to 1 year old and not housebroken: 

1. Get those bells that hang on your doorknob. Teach him to use them. Every time you take him out, take his paw and tap the bells. 

2. TREATS. As soon as he starts doing his thing outside, TREATSSS.

3. Don’t leave the dog out of the kennel when you’re not home. In a few months, you can try to leave him out. For right now, he needs to be in there until he earns your trust again. It sounds like it may be a behavioral thing too, so he may feel more secure in his kennel while you’re gone.

Post # 11
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Helper bee

You’ve received good advice on the potty training, so I won’t repeat , I just wanted to say that you need to be feeding him twice a day! Poor little guy is going 24 straight hours with no food? This very well could be causing intestinal issues. 

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2016

I had a dog with separation anxiety who would often have accidents in the house when I was away. Have you thought about pheromones and calming music? You can find pheromone plug ins at most pet stores. They put off scents that dogs find soothing or relaxing and just plug into a wall outlet. For us, it was a combination of the pheromones and calming music. In addition to the pheromone plug ins, we would also put calming music on our iPad (search YouTube for “calming music, dogs”) and plug it into a set of speakers. Might be worth a try. It worked great for us. Good luck!!

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

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Navygirl14 :  number one pet peeve: when pets are pushed to the wayside because of children. I don’t understand how you could say he “has got to go” if you have children and the problem isn’t fixed. Pets are members of the family too. Don’t get a pet if you aren’t prepared to deal with pet issues. 

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2015

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Navygirl14 :  Could it be that he’s anxious? We have a beagle and had a VERY hard time potty training her and now she’s a little over a year old and house trained for the most part but every now and then she will have an accident in the house. We realized that these accidents happen when we’re not home and it’s been thunderstorming outside and we figure she might be anxious and peeing from that? She’s been to the vet and she doesn’t have any other issues so maybe you can think of some triggers that may be affecting him?

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