NWR: Anyone Else Following Michelle Carter Trial?

posted 2 years ago in The Lounge
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Helper bee

I’ve read the transcripts. I think she is a horrible, cold-hearted human being. She needs to spend time in prison.

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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2014

She is a horrible person but if what she did was not against any existing law, then they can’t convict her. (Note: I’m not saying that it’s true that there’s no law against what she did– I,m just following on what the OP said.) That’s not how our legal system works. Which sucks in a lot of ways but also protects innocent people from being thrown in jail for no reason. Fortunately the standard of evidence is a lot lower in civil court so if she somehow avoids getting convicted in criminal court, she will probably lose in civil court and spend every day of the rest of her life without a penny to her name.

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Helper bee

I believe that she researched methods and helped him determine what kind of generator he would need to use. The transcripts show that she prodded him for days, and bullied, manipulated, and belittled him for hesitating. That goes beyond just encouraging him, In My Humble Opinion.

If she is found not guilty, I could see new legislation introduced to ty to prevent this from happening again. 

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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: City, State

if she is found guilty based on these grounds, then every teenager whoʻs bullied a peer to commit suicide could be on trial including cyber-bullying cases. This may have a lot more precedence and influence on the bigger picture for cases to come.

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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

Everything  I’ve read argues that while what she did was heinous, it technically doesn’t violate Massachusetts law.  There are about 30 states that have criminalized actions like hers, but MA hasn’t done so (though I’m sure the law will be made shortly after this trial). 

Sucks, but this case is far from a slam dunk, and as danakxox points out, has a lot of precedent-setting ability for bullying/cyber-bulling.   

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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

Just saw that she was found guilty.

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Bumble Beekeeper

danakxox :  This particular case went beyond bullying – they were in a relationship and when he told her mid-suicide that he couldn’t do it and didn’t want to die she told him to get back in the vehicle. 

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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

LilliV :  exactly. All she had to say was “get out of the truck”. She could have called 911 or his family or anyone. She didn’t even try. She knew for a longtime prior he was planning to commit suicide… she could have told a teacher, her parents, his parents, and so many others I can’t list them all. 

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Busy bee

danakxox :  Well, maybe people would think twice about bullying someone in that case, which would be a very good thing

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Bumble bee
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lauralaura123 :  yes! bullying no longer is left at school. bullying has become 24/7 with phones and apps. Itʻs insane. Like the teens that committed suicide due to cyber-bullying, I just really hope this case gets used as a precedent that as parents/mentors we arenʻt messing around, we know how theyʻre doing it and weʻre on to them, and we are not afraid to prosecute legally. 

 

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