(NWR) Badlands National Park goes rogue on Twitter

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Post # 17
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Buzzing Beekeeper

Horseradish :  If you are interested you should check out our governments (Australia) ban on media coverage/press conferences/information release on illegal boat arrivals. The people like sheep think that because it is no longer reported and the press have been gagged that no illegals are arriving. But if you go and talk to some locals in areas common for arrivals it is a different story. Ignorance is bliss.

Post # 18
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2015

WTF is even going on anymore???????

Post # 20
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Helper bee

Until about a year ago, under a conservative gouvernment, there was a similar gag on Canadian gov. scientists and a real slash to funding for climate and natural sciences research. The new Liberal gouvernment lifted the ban and slowly funds are coming back. As a gouvernment scientist I swore to myself “never again”. I broke down in tears when I heard this today. I’m not surprised really, but reading it was a kick in the chest.

I remember there was an EPA climate scientist on these boards; if you (or anyone else effected) are reading this, you have my sympathy and my support and the support of people across the country and the world and we won’t turn a blind eye.  No matter what, you have to keep working, now is the time for your very best.

Post # 21
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

Orwell’s 1984 is the 6th best selling book on Amazon now, after Conway’s mention of “alternative facts.” That’s a phrase lifted right from the book, and it is scary as hell to hear someone try to say that seriously. “Alternative facts”, gagging scientific research, attacking and censoring free speech… it isn’t going to get any better over the next four years. There was an interview I heard over the weekend with someone from the EPA talking about how they were scrambling to amend reports and documents and other information to erase mention of climate change. They were trying to preserve the programs that were doing good things and prevent them from being slashed because they mentioned climate change. Again, what kind of country do we live in that thinks science denial is a reasonable thing? 

Post # 22
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2016

echomomm :  I know of several ongoing projects at federal agencies (sorry I can’t be more specific–my account is too far from anonymous and I don’t want to get anyone in trouble) that pro-actively had alternative documents and proposals erasing “climate change” and re-framing research to be about “environmental variability” and “natural disasters” long before the election (like, at least 12 months ago).  I’m told it’s because, after Australia’s dabble with federally-mandated climate change denial, many federal scientists here in the US have learned to be prepared.

It’s a little crazy, but the plus side is: we know from our counterparts in Australia that as long as you reframe things well you can continue doing valuable research. 

Post # 23
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Buzzing bee

 echomomm :  Again, what kind of country do we live in that thinks science denial is a reasonable thing? 

One that protects the interests of capitalism at any and all costs. 

Mother Jones has an old but relevant list of effective environmental non-profits here, which will need all the help they can get with the rapid destruction of government agencies and sanctions. 

Post # 24
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2016

 Speck_ :  I’m going to email Mother Jones about it so they can add RFF to the list, but resources for the future (rff.org) does invaluable work and it’s a nonpartisan nonprofit.  In resource economics, they’re the gold standard–they only hire the very best.  We clamour over each other to try and get a job with them and to try and hire their ex-interns.  

Post # 25
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

Sadly this was exactly as I predicted.  With scientists gagged politicians can make up their interpretation of “science” and sadly most people won’t know how to find or discern the truth.  The moment you give up free press and access to information you will soon realize you are no longer free.

Post # 26
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Bumble bee

MrsMeowton :  It only gets worse. Trump just raged on twitter that he’s going to “send the Feds” into Chicago if they don’t get the “carnage” taken care of.

so he’s silencing whole departments putting them under a gag order, giving us alternative facts,  considering invading our own American cities… And it’s only day 4.

 

Post # 27
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

Katie-Didnt :  its because gun crimes are given such LIGHT sentences by the local courts/judges in Chicago.  (Despite guns being illegal there)  220+ people were killed in a matter of 3 weeks recently.  The idea is for the Feds to protect the citizens by enforcing stiffer sentences.  That will keep the offenders off the street longer. Most of the victims of the shooting were African Americans. 

Post # 29
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Bumble bee

mrstodd2bee :  I mean it’s against the 10th amendment for the federal government to impose martial law on states without their permission but who am I to quibble with the constitution? 

Post # 30
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Busy bee

mrstodd2bee :  Your numbers are slightly off. There were 228 shootings, not people killed.  This is a 5.5% increase over the same time period in 2016. There have been 42 homicides, which is a 24% increase over the same time period in 2016.

We can discuss what these numbers mean, but there certainly have not been 220+ killed in 3 weeks.

I’m unclear exactly how ‘the Feds’ would ‘enforce stiffer sentences’. Does this mean federal workers would go into courtrooms and change sentences handed out? How does that work?

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