(Closed) NWR Can someone explain this to me?

posted 6 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

*sigh* I’ll never quite understand this man and frankly, don’t want to

Post # 5
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

The more I hear from Romney the less I can stand him.  I hate he called it “American” values – I’m American and my viewpoint is the polar opposite of his.

Post # 6
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@peachacid:  Correct, that is exactly what it sounds like he’s saying.  Ugh!

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

That’s funny. Maybe it’s just me, but I was under the impression that freedom of religion was permitted under the Bill of Rights… which is pretty much the basis of what America stands for.

Plus, he’s mormon. Doesn’t that require some religious tolerance?

Post # 8
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013

I thought American values included tolerance? Guess not.

Post # 9
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Honey bee
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What really upsets me over the Romney statements is that he (or perhaps his campaign manager) feels the need to use Obama’s reaction to the ambassador’s assination, for his own political gain.

I totally get it that many people feel Obama’s statement was not bold or emotional enough, and I’ve not made my own opinion on that. On one hand, we as a country should be offended and outraged but on the other hand, we’re dealing with religious fanatics killing in the name of god, and going in with a heavy hand or a passionate statement will only escalate the situation. I honestly don’t know what the right statement to make would be. I only know that, no matter what the response, it won’t please everyone. Fair enough.

But to use that as part of the political campaign is purely wrong, and in my opinion a total dick move.

Post # 10
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Buzzing Beekeeper
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@fishbone:  What really upsets me over the Romney statements is that he (or perhaps his campaign manager) feels the need to use Obama’s reaction to the ambassador’s assination, for his own political gain.

THIS!  Excellent point.  It’s so disgusting.  He really ticked me off during the Olympics, too.  WTF?

Post # 11
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013

You think his wife ever calls him and goes, “You said WHAT?!”

Post # 13
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Honey bee
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@Sunfire:  it’s fearmongering and playing on people’s emotions, plain and simple, which unfortunately is the M.O. of the Republican party in recent election years.  Look at how much anger and negative emotion got stirred up in the last Presidential election over the topic of gay marriage— it’s not even a Federal issue, so the President’s views on gay marriage should not even be a factor, but the whole “sanctity of marriage” debate was plastered all over the media as a Presidential issue.  Now if you want to argue over whether marriage equality should be decided at the state level or the Federal level, so be it— perfectly good debate to have!  But under the current legislation, it’s a states issue, and there’s no reason at all to bring it up during a Presidential campaign other than to stir up strong feelings on both sides.  Because the  Republican voter base tends to be more passionate about those issues, it’s easier to mobilize them to vote if you get them good and worked up.  This is just another example of using people’s fear, anger and negative emotion as a political tool.

Don’t get me wrong– I’m not saying that any campaign should not identify issues that are important to their voters and work hard to get their supporters to the polls. I’m just saying there is an ethical way to do it, and this is not it.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
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@fishbone:  I wouldn’t call it a d*ck move. I would call it a ‘wow, you actually just speak 100% out of your ass, Romney.  You have zero idea what you’re talking about, don’t you?’ move. It’s okay…..let him continue to make a complete idiot out of himself.  We’ll just sit back and watch him tank his campaign one soundbyte at a time. 

@Peach – I still owe you a meal plan, I haven’t forgotten!!

ETA – Also…it gives me the giggles that he thinks hate speech is an American Value.  Truer words were never spoken by a Republican Party candidate.

Post # 16
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Honey bee
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@WillyNilly:  well the sad thing is, I’m not entirely sure that he IS going to tank his campaign. There are an awful lot of folks who WILL go flying to the polls because of fear and vote based on sound bites rather than facts.

If you want to vote for Romney because you feel his values align more closely with yours, or because you like his proposed budget packages, or whatever, by all means do that.  But so many voters on both sides these days form their political opinions based on headlines they see on Yahoo News, and the left (being more popular amongst young voters and voters who are more likely to work two jobs) has a historical problem getting the voter turnout.  So I’m not counting on comments like these actually hurting his campaign, unfortunately.

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