Post # 1
Ugh. I just can’t.
So he raps about raping his mother and killing the mother of his child, but people LOVE him. What is the deal here? He’s constantly making fun of people, and comes off as a huge bully.
He has a new song out, and here are the lyrics (thanks, Entertainment Weekly, for the transcription!):
Little gay-looking boy / So gay I can barely say it with a straight face-looking boy / You witnessing massacre like you watching a church gathering taking place-looking boy / ‘Oy vey, that boy’s gay,’ that’s all they say looking-boy / You take a thumbs up, pat on the back, the way you go from your label every day-looking boy
I attempt these lyrical acrobat stunts while I’m practicing that / I’ll still be able to break a motherf*****’ table / Over the back of a couple of f****** and crack it in half / Only realized it was ironic I was signed to Aftermath after the fact
I feel like Macklemore and Ryan Lewis need to stage an intervention with him.
Can someone please tell me what Eminem’s appeal is?
Post # 3
Mods: Can you please move this to The Lounge? Thanks!
Post # 4
@mgol25: It’s just music. I don’t think it should be taken too seriously. I love Eminem and I always will. Sure you can nitpick lyrics and find stuff that is there for shock value, but he actually does a lot of social commentary and says a lot of things other people think but don’t have the balls to say themselves. I’d find some examples, but I don’t feel it is worth the effort.
Post # 5
Gross. Pass. Never liked Eminem, never saw the appeal. His music/lyrics/voice are terrible.
My ex was OBSESSED with him. He was supposedly also a “white rapper” and “performed” in some “super secret underground clubs” in the area during college.
Post # 6
i’m not crazy about some of his lyrics, but i think his songs are catchy. i would think the fact that he has a teen age daughter would make him think twice about writing lyrics that are disrepectful to women, but whatever….
Post # 7
What @MrsPanda99: said. So I’m not a huge Eminem fan, but I do like some of his stuff, mostly early stuff. I’m from Metro Detroit and people around here LOVE him. I think a lot of it has to do with the huge amount of bad press Detroit gets and the ongoing economic decline (although you could argue Detroit has actually rebounded quite a bit in the the last few years but that’s for another thread).
During the recession, $*^& in Michigan was HARD. When we graduated college, everyone I knew had to move back in with their parents for at least a while. Nearly every household in my area had someone laid off or took a buy out. I know multiple people who lost their house. Unfortunately drug use is rampant as well. I think people see Eminem as someone who made it, and while we have some successful people around here he’s one of the most immediately visible examples. When you have so many stories of failure, you hold on tight to the success stories. (It’s also a HUGE deal when our sports teams do well.)
When “Recovery” came out, it was really interesting to see. I wasn’t living here at the time, but it was so much more of a hit here than it was in DC where I was. What I noticed was that some of the songs really resonated with people around here who were grappling with addicition issues or trying to recover. And frankly as someone who has had to remove immediate family members from my life because they chose drugs like Xanax and heroin over all personal relationships, I’m going to support whatever works for people. If that’s feeling like you see a common ground with Eminiem, go for it buddy if it gets you to put down the spoon.
Finally, while it’s unfortunate, I do think racisim and homophobia is still extremely widespread and pervasive – particularly in middle America. No one admits it or likes to talk about it openly, but if you spend some time away from the US and come back in as an outsider, it’s really freakin’ apparent.
Post # 8
He has a catchy beat, and it’s music. People have different preferences. Someone explain to me the appeal of Miley Cyrus, or Britney Spears, or Kanye? They may not appeal to me, but they do to some people and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest.
Post # 9
I’m not a fan of every single one of his songs but I find quite a few of them to be catchy.
Post # 10
To me it’s how his lyrics put so strong emotion into words. You can feel the pain, the hurt, I don’t know. I haven’t listened to all his songs but I cried the first time I heard Cleaning out my closet I thought it was so powerful. And I did some research after Love the way you lie about the violence in the lyrics and how it described, not an abuser like I thought at first, but toxic relationship between the man and the woman. He has a way of telling a story, using strong images, cynism and irony to portray a situation, and somehow I admire his talent even if the subjects he chooses are dark. I have to say, I’ve been a black metal fan in my early 20s too, so I’m *used* to dark, violent or even provocative lyrics and songs, but I always interpret them as what they are supposed to be : art, mean of expression, poetry even. And some people have a a way of making even the awful, sound poetic. I don’t know if what I say is clear, but that’s how I feel listening to some songs even if they fall into the dark category. Ugly can be beautiful, if that makes any sense !
Post # 11
@Mrs.LemonDrop: I prefer the older stuff too but I am liking one of the new songs.
She’s a pretty little thing but she’s supposed to be 4 years old or something 😛
Post # 12
Darling Husband freakin LOVES him. Follows his music and story and all that jazz. I do not get the appeal, but apparently he and his producers are making huge waves in the industry for their song choice, production quality and more behind the scenes stuff. Obviously a lot of his fame can be attributed to his shock value– and 99% of what he says/raps about is all for the shock. I don’t personally like him/ rap music, but I think he is a little toungue and cheek-y and not to be taken too seriously
Post # 13
@MrsPanda99: No way that can’t be her! Yep, I’m old.
Post # 14
@Mrs.LemonDrop: Thanks so much for your comment. Definitely gives me a different perspective. When I wrote this post, the song of this that was top of mind was the one about “the ugly Kardashian” and now this one about all of this homophobic imagery. I totally respect that people who have serious personal struggles see him as one of the ones who made it.
@NauticalDisaster: This totally makes sense. I have read some of his other lyrics, and he definitely has a way with words.
@MrsPanda99: I know! I remember seeing her in the “Forgot About Dre” music video and she was just a toddler.
Post # 15
Catchy sound, horrible lyrics. Works for people who don’t tend to listen to lyrics, like my Fiance. He had no idea about what most of what he (or any other singer) was saying.
We avoid Eminem, and that’s easy enough, just as we avoid country music… but what really irritates me is when he does guest vocals on a song by someone else that I’d otherwise like. Way to ruin a song, dude.
Post # 16
@mgol25: I’m not a fan of his nor rap music overall. As time continues it gets more and more offensive, more angry and in some songs they make a sound every 5th beat and the kids LOVE it. The state of music has gone to shit…