(Closed) NWR: Mom Stopped Talking to Me (Politically Related Long Vent)

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Post # 151
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2017

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allywed :  women voted for him too, it’s amazing what a campaign can do. Doesn’t make him less dangerous. 

 

I’m mystified someone could work for the un and also support an unqualified, inexperienced, often jnsuccessful businessman to run a country.

 

I am a member of a political party and work part time in politics. I respect your experience I do not accept your opinion as superior to mine. 

Post # 152
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Helper bee

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malgor :  I never said that my opinion was superior to yours, just that yours wasn’t superior to mine. Get off your high horse and accept that a difference in opinion may have nothing to do with a “superior” knowledge.

Post # 153
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Helper bee
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allywed :  

I cannot for a second accept that anyone could vote for trump with a working knowledge of international history, compassion for fellow human beings and reasonable intelligence. I just can’t. Everything about Trump makes me want to start a colony on the moon to get away not only from him but from those who would hand him power.

Post # 154
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Helper bee

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malgor :  Well, that you can’t accept something I know to be true (that I graduated magna cum laude with a BA in International Relations and worked at the UN) shows the limitations of your narrow mind.  

Post # 155
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Helper bee
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allywed :  

You misunderstand, I believe you have these credentials. 

 

I dont understand how you can take that knowledge and turn it into this opinion. I hope that makes sense. 

 

You say I’m on my high horse. 

 

1. You don’t respond to any concerns, are you really not worried by trump’s racist ramblings? 

 

2. How do you feel about a wall to keep Mexicans out? 

3. How do you feel about an evangelical Christian having a say in equal rights, what happened to separation of church and state. 

4. How can you respect a man who speaks of grabbing pussy? 

I’m really asking, I genuinely want a response? Are you just ignoring the bits you don’t like? Or do you agree with these policies? I really hope you respond because I am genuinely keen to understand the thought process. I really don’t get it. 

 

Post # 156
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Helper bee

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malgor :  I was more worried about Hillary’s history of corruption than about Trump.  It’s that simple.  Period.

Post # 157
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Helper bee
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allywed :  

 

 

It’s not big brother, you’re not voting someone out you’re voting them in. 

 

What were your views on the above policies? 

 

What was Hilary planning that was worse? I can’t even imagine worse. 

 

 Not being rude, I’m really asking, I really don’t get it. I’m not just saying that. I can’t see how anyone could willingly share responsibility for what Trump is likely to do. 

Post # 158
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Helper bee
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Surely someone who is ‘honest Joe’ about being a hideous person is worse than corrupt? 

Post # 159
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Helper bee

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malgor :  I really have to get back to work, so I’ll keep it short.  I prefer Trump to Hillary on International policy.  

You must be aware about Hillary’s mistakes and stupidity concerning Libya.  I also feel that she was far more of a dangerous hawk than Trump when it comes to Syria.   I don’t see the Russian’s as the US’s worst enemy.  I think we need to work together with them.  

On a similar note, I was pretty blown away that Hillary’s state department was so incompetent as to allow Russians to hack into our system.  We should have better protections in place and we should be bringing those hackers over to work for us.  I can go on and on why I believe that Trump is a better choice, but I have to work.

Post # 160
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Helper bee
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allywed :  

I’d be delighted to hear more if you have more time another time. 

Thanks

Post # 161
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Helper bee

I wonder how many relationships the election results already have broken

Post # 162
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Buzzing bee

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malgor :  Technical knowledge, like knowing which bones connect and which muscles do what is 10000% different than ‘political experience’.  No, I wouldn’t walk up to a bum on the street and ask him to perform an operation on me. That’s a ridiculous analogy and you know it.

The problem with politicians, is they aren’t held accountable to DO anything…and most of the time they don’t! What do you need to ‘learn’ about politics that you can’t learn from reading the constitution and other great books? Literally what is the actual technical knowledge that you need? How to wave your security badge and get into certain buildings? How to say ‘present’ at the senate roll call? What do you need to spend a lifetime ‘watching’ to learn? You can watch and learn a lot by just being a normal citizen, too. What experiences did trump miss out on by not being a career politician?

Post # 163
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Bumble Beekeeper
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italianbride0508 :  Exactly.  The politicians I know personally all started out as lawyers.  Trump hires lawyers, he doesn’t need to be one himself.

Post # 164
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Bumble Beekeeper
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I would like to share something said very recently by one of my favorite actors, Tom Hanks:

Quote as follows:

 

The night was supposed to be all about him, but he made it about us.

Tom Hanks used the occasion of his tribute from the Museum of Modern Art’s film department on Tuesday night to deliver a Tom Hanks-ian monologue addressing the despair many in the entertainment industry feel about Donald Trump’s election as president. It was the climactic scene from the third act of many a Hanks movie, and it was just what the audience at MoMA needed to hear.

Hanks never mentioned Trump by name, but there was no mistaking the point of his remarks. He referenced “Schoolhouse Rock” and Bruce Springsteen, and he emphasized the sanctity of the Constitution no matter what. To wit:

“We are going to be all right. America has been in worse places than we are at right now,” Hanks said. “In my own lifetime our streets were in chaos, our generations were fighting each other tooth and nail, and every dinner table ended up being as close to a fist fight as human families will allow.

“We have been in a place where we have looked at our leaders and wondered what the hell they were thinking of. We’ve had moments with the administrations and politicians and senators and governors in which we have we’ve asked ourselves ‘Are they lying to us or do they really believe in this?’ That’s all right.

“We have this magnificent thing that is in place. It’s a magnificent document and it starts off with these phrases that if you’re smart enough you’ve memorized in school or you just read enough so that you know it by heart, or you watched those little things on ABC where they taught you little songs in order to sing, and the song goes (singing): ‘We the people/in order to form a more perfect union/established to ensure domestic tranquility/to provide for the common defense/promote the general welfare,’ and you go on and on. That document is going to protect us over and over again whether or not our neighbors preserve, protect, and defend it themselves.

“We are going to be all right because we constantly get to tell the world who we. We constantly get to define ourselves as Americans. We do have the greatest country in the world. We move at a slow pace. We have the greatest country in the world because we are always moving towards a more perfect union.

“That journey never ceases, it never stops. Sometimes, to quote a Bruce Springsteen song, it’s one step forward two steps back, but we still aggregately move forward. We who are a week into wondering what the hell just happened will continue to move forward. We have to choose to do so, but we will move forward because if we do not move forward. What is to be said of us?

“We will take everything that has been handed to us as Americans and we will turn our nation and we will turn the future and we will turn all the work that we have in before us into some grand thing of beauty,” Hanks said, to a standing ovation.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/11/17/tom-hanks-on-election-results-are-going-to-be-all-right.html

Post # 165
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Bumble bee

Consider that this election is devastating for many people, not just rep vs. dems, but a platform built on rolling back people’s freedoms and basic rights.  That’s no light matter.  You’re not taking your mom’s pain and grief seriously.  You’re trying to push her to get over it, when she isn’t over it.  So, you can either meet her where she is, and engage with her pain.  Or back off and stop expecting her to cater to just your feelings and needs. 

Your mom sounds like a fine woman!

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