(Closed) NWR – Pitbulls: What's your stance?

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Post # 31
378 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2016

I have a pitbull and I’ve raised him really well. He’s a good dog and I’ve never seen him display aggression.

Post # 32
233 posts
Helper bee

My pit boy that I had was one of the best dogs I have ever owned. I only had him for a short time because he was so old, but he was a rescued fighting dog, and he never hurt a fly with me. He was very, very obedient and had such a strong drive to please. He did have to learn some leash manners, but that was because he had never been walked on a leash before coming to the shelter I rescued him from. His ears were cut and he had all sorts of battle scars, so he looked “Scary” to a lot of people, but he was just the sweetest pup ever. All he wanted to do was cuddle on the couch, lay in the sun, or go for walks. I see what some pps are saying about not knowing the past of a shelter dog, but A LOT of the time, dogs rescued from fighting rings are the most mellow, happy puppies youll ever encounter. 🙂 I think its awesome that OP isnt perturbed by adopting a pitbull type dog, especially a bonded pair 🙂

Post # 33
3237 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2017

Dogs > people

Post # 34
1155 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

We have a pit mix and she is super super sweet, always looking to please DH and I. She was a rescue, and came from an abusive home before so she definitely has issues..lots of noises and sudden movements scare her, and she needs slow intros to new people, and is leash reactive, but so is my 30 lb lab/terrier mix. She doesn’t like new people touching her head/face (understandable to me) but a lot of people don’t “get it” so we try to educate when we can, she needs time to warm up to people, she was physically abused before being rescued, so no, she doesn’t want a stranger’s hands all up in her face. It’s amazing that more people don’t understand -_- 

She gets along great with our 2 resident dogs, had 3 fosters before we adopted her including a rude little chi, and does great at doggie daycare. We keep her on-leash at all times, or in our fenced in yard, and don’t do socializing while on-leash in parks or on the street. But like I said, our other pup has issues on leash too, they just do better in an open area like a yard or daycare. When on walks, we try to keep them focused on us and just keep moving rather than stand around and wait for an issue. 

I love pitties, and most all dogs.. it’s only when you have a little a-hole of a creature that isn’t or can’t be controlled by its owner that I get uncomfortable, whether it’s a 4 lb yorkie or a 100+ lb bully breed. 

Post # 35
723 posts
Busy bee

I’m a vet tech that worked in clinic for about 6 years, and I definitely saw many more aggressive chihuahuas than pitbulls, and the only time I was bit (with broken skin) was by a shepherd.  I don’t think pitbulls are inherently bad, and I own an Am Staff mix that’s really sweet, but she can definitely be reactive to certain situations.  I do however, think they (and other bully and terrier breeds) generally need more socialization and training than some other breeds.  Mine definitely has the terrier traits of being reactive to other animals and she can be a little more aggressive when playing with my golden retriever.  I’m trying to work with her (she’s a year old) on the reactivity, but she’s definitely got the stubborness of a terrier! I think that all dogs should be treated with some level of caution – as much as we humanize them, they’re animals and all breeds have the capacity to cause serious damage in the blink of an eye.

Post # 36
4846 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

Fully support the ban. The dogs are bred with certain characteristics that make them more dangerous. All breeds have certain characteristics and mannerisms deliberately bred into them. There is no licensing or standard for training a dog that has the potential to inflict as much damage as a pit bull can. As much as many owners are careful and responsible, many are not. There is no reason to have a dog bred for fighting as a pet. You can’t train the danger out of a tiger, a bear or other potentially lethal animals. It’s foolish imo to think that your average joe can effectively train a pit. Every time a pit hurts or kills someone the owner is shocked and never though their sweet dog could hurt someone. Pick a non lethal breed. It’s totally unfair to the pits I agree, but having seen someone with a maul injury from one I cannot suppprt them as pets. 

Post # 37
1252 posts
Bumble bee

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kawood0618 :  

I love my dog. He’s an american bully, but somewhere in his blood there is pitbull for sure.

I love the look of pits but they are illegal in my country and town. 

I say blame the owner/breeders. It’s like rasing a child you have to teach them and show them love and affection. If you teach them aggression it’s like any dog breed.

Post # 38
1974 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2018

It’s like any breed. It’s they are well trained and loved, they are amazing. If not taken care of…well. You know. 

I think they are beautiful. I grew up with a half pit/half boxer. She was a sweet girl. I’ve meet more asshole German Shepard that I am not scared of them. My Boxer has been attacked by her single one he has met and shakes and tries to hide if he sees one. 

Post # 39
44 posts
  • Wedding: January 2017

I own a rotti- she’s still a puppy and we’re training her still in the backyard and going to puppy school every weekend. 

She was attacked by a chihuahua on a walk one day. She was leashed and the little dog was not. Chihuahua came running up nipping and biting while my rotti was trying to hide behind me. I received two puncture marks from teeth on my hand and a butt load of scratches on my arm. Even tho the dog wasn’t big enough to do massive damage- I demanded the owner provide the dogs rabies certificate so I would know I wouldn’t need more attentive medical attention to protect myself- for my dog as well. 

Even tho my dog outweighed the other by at least 40 lbs it was still a scary thing for her and myself. The large majority of our training is now focusing on her not being afraid of small dogs and growling when one comes near. It’s not because she was aggressive- but because she was attacked by a small dog and no longer trusts them- heck I don’t either. 

For me- no matter the breed- I will show them the same healthy respect as any. Any dog can do damage. 

I hate to say it- but I have a dislike of Chihuahuas now and try to avoid them at all costs. But for our Rottis training I want her to meet them and see they are not a bad thing. I’d much rather trust a pitbull than one of those. Haven’t had a bad pitbull expiernece in my life. It’s the small dogs I have issues with. 

Post # 40
422 posts
Helper bee

I’ve always wanted a pitbull and I too believe it’s the trainer not the dog. I personally hate little dogs, theyre always yappy and bite you but get away with it because they are little. A friend of ours has a pomeranian and everyone I know hates that dog, she bites and barks and rips your socks off your feet!

Post # 42
5083 posts
Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2014

I really hate the “blame the owner” thing, because it demonizes people that could very well have done everything right. The reality is that even the most well trained and loved dog can be dangerous. Sure, there are some shitty owners (and pitbulls probably have a higher proportion of those given their “tough guy” status), but plenty of dog bites come from well trained and loved dogs who just snapped over something. So thinking that just because you train your dog and love it that it won’t ever be aggressive is foolish, IMO. This is true of any breed and precautions need to be taken, especially with children. 

That said, a pitbull (or a rottie, or a dobie, or a GSD, etc.) is going to do a whole lot more damage when it bites than a chihuahua will.

I don’t have a particular problem with pitbulls, I think they’re cute and many are big babies and it’s adorable. I probably would never get one though (or any other “aggressive breed”) just because of issues with insurance and HOAs and such. 

Post # 43
2844 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: November 2018

We took our girl in from an abusive home where she was kept in a basement with no sunlight and no socialization. It was a decision that we made together and we did a lot of research on the breed before taking her in.

She has been one of the biggest blessings of my life time. I grew up in a home with small dogs so it was definitely an adjustment getting used to her strength but she is so much sweeter than any of the small dogs that I have ever had.

My Roxie is sooo smart. She caught on to house training within a week of us having her, she walks great on a lead, she loves our kitties and our other dogs, and she is amazing with children. All she wants is love from everyone and everything. 

Post # 44
7298 posts
Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

I’m a huge dog lover, and have two big dogs. I certainly believe that the majority of the time a dogs behavior has everything to do with their training and environment. I’m a labrador owner and they are known as one of the best family dogs – but I’ve seen an aggressive lab due to poor training and no attentino.

However, I also fully believe there are certain breeds who are more prone to aggression – no matter how much training and love they have. My Mother-In-Law resuced a pit mix as a puppy from a boy walking it down the street on a chain. He had very clearly taken it to a fight (it has a busted face). That dog has been very very sweet and I am completely comfortable around it – but I know just as many people with sweet and loved pitts that have had them attack.

I have a friend who owned two, since they were puppies. These were normal everyday “house dogs”. Not purcahsed for anything other than a family pet, and were very well taken care out. This is a family who has had several dogs and so this was not their first rodeo into pet ownership. They’d had these dogs at least 5+ years and of nowhere one day, one attacked (completely unprovoked) their teenage daughter and the photos were chilling.

I feel bad for the breed but like someone else mentioned, you wouldn’t think of having a bear or tiger or other aggressive animal as a pet.

There’s a reason we own labs – because they are so docile and loveable. It’s the reason we wil not own a small breed dog, because they tend to be aggresive. For us it’s not about the size, but the temperment.

Post # 45
1603 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2017

Small dogs are notorious for having bad tempers and biting and the whole 9 yards. HOWEVER, when they bite, it is usually so minor so that all just gets brushed off.

I’m really not sure about pitbulls. They are beautiful dogs and are fiercely loyal, and just seem really loving overall. I disagree though that their bad wrap comes solely from those who abuse the breed. We are big dog lovers, and were discussing the breed with friends of ours. They had a friend, a man who is ex-military, who had adopted a pitbull as a puppy. He raised her and was loving towards her, and obviously she was loving to him. He, of course, met a lovely woman who moved in with him and they got engaged. Well one night, the fiancee was cooking, and like any dog, the pit was “helping,” aka salivating at the possibility of a scrap.

Fiancee generously offered her a piece of the raw meat that she was cooking and it was just all of a sudden like something snapped in the dog. She wanted more, and you could see she was ready to attack. The man saw all this transpire, and as the dog lunged, well…he had to intervene and unfortunately kill the dog :/. Hearing that story I just…don’t know. I think for my own sanity, I couldn’t adopt one, but I don’t think it’s right to ban the whole breed. It is just a breed that requires more caution and care perhaps, and not the kind that I am able to give.

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