(Closed) NWR: Pope approves condom use in Africa!

posted 8 years ago in Catholic
Post # 3
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Sugar bee

I’m torn.  I have little issue with condoms but I won’t use them in my relationship.

“If the intention is to prevent transmission of the virus, rather than prevent contraception, moral theologians would say that was of a different moral order.”

Peter Seewald: Are you saying, then, that the Catholic Church is actually not opposed in principle to the use of condoms?

Pope Benedict: She of course does not regard it as a real or moral solution, but, in this or that case, there can be nonetheless, in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way, of living sexuality.

That’s interesting.  He didn’t exclusively say he supports it or “allows” it but it seemed like he said that it might be okay for exceptional cases.  I’m not sure about it.

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

This is amazing.  I’m really happy about this decision.

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee

I think it’s great!

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

Edited to butt out because I’m not Catholic 🙂

Post # 9
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Sugar bee

@jedeve:  I agree with you but I don’t see the Church saying “well since you’re prostituting, you can use a condom.”  They don’t support prostitution, so I’m unsure.  I guess we’ll have to wait for more information.  My own opinion, I think condom use would slow down transmission and I would like that. But as a Catholic, I have to follow Church teaching in my own life (not that I have an infection).

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

@jedeve: Oh I’m very aware of how HIV is transmitted. I mean more if you look at the risk factors that are actually causing the epidemic there, gay commercial sex workers are not it.

By The Way sorry – I didn’t realize I was posting in the Catholic board. My career is in international health so I feel particularly emotionally attached to this topic, but I’ll happily butt out 🙂

Post # 11
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Sugar bee

I’ve been thinking more about this.  Since contraception isn’t an issue with gay male prostitutes, then the condom really serves no other purpose than to stop transmission.  The act in of itself is sinful but I think what the Pope is saying that if there is no possibility of conceiving then condom serves as a barrier only and that it may be a more responsible transition to moral behavior.  Recognizing that one is ill and preventing another person from getting sick..

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

I am happy about this, thumbs up.  

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper

If you’re already a gay prostitute, do you think the church really cares how you sin?  And using condoms in that case has nothing to do with contraception, so I don’t think it is what everyone thinks it is.  It’s kinda like saying if you’re gay and having indiscriminate sex, they don’t care if you’re using the missionary or doggy style.  Whatever won’t spread disease works for the church.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee

I think we have to rethink what we consider condom use for, for those that may find this as an appalling revelation (because I know there will be some that will).  If a condom was marketed for disease control instead of contraception, then there wouldn’t be any questions about it.  I think people are getting riled up about this b/c they’re like “if it’s morally permissable for these individuals, then why not for us?” Well the use of the condom is to prevent transmission, not to prevent conception.  I think the Pope said the best way to prevent disease is abstinence but when that’s not possible, a condom acts as a barrier of disease.  Additionally, when regarding use of NFP, it can’t be in the contraceptive mindset or else it’s considered immoral.  Furthermore, those with reproductive illnesses that use birth control as medicine, they are not using it in a contraceptive mindset.  These things are all morally fine because they aren’t to prevent pregnancy.  Additionally, he’s saying that it’s a more responsible behavior to use condoms during their gay sex than without even though the act is sinful because they’re attempting to limit their disease.

Post # 15
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2012

Ok, so I am totally out of the loop here and I feel kinda stupid for asking but….

Do Catholics not believe in using condoms?

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