Post # 1
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Bumble Beekeeper
In case you didn’t see the news yet–
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-executive-order-could-block-legal-residents-from-returning-to-america
On the list are Muslim-majority nations like Iran, Syria and Iraq, which are war torn, have tons of refugees, and have never been migration routes for terrorists who have attacked us in the Us.
Not on the banned list are Muslim-majority nations like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, not just home to legitimate terrorists who have tried to attack us, but also the location for a wide array of Trump business interests. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/
Caught up in this ban are people who worked as translators, embedded with our troops in Iraq, and who sought refugee status because they have gotten death threats for helping us. These are people who literally risked their lives to help our troops for several years, and we gave them visas and told them to come on over, and then started pulling them off airplanes.
Personally I’m outraged, embarrassed and really disgusted at what our country is becoming.
Post # 2
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Helper bee
Horseradish : I am heartbroken. i have to believe most Americans do not think this is ok. As a Canadian, I don’t always agree with our prime minister but thank goodness he isn’t banning refugees
Post # 3
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Honey bee
Horseradish : I had such a visceral reaction to this news, so I’m not going to be able to post the most cohesive post of my life, but I will try.
I am flat out fucking disgusted. Disgusted. Embarrassed. Ashamed. Disappointed. If you are still supporting this man and his choices I just want to ask WHAT THE FUCK IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU PEOPLE? How can you read the news of people who are being banned from coming here, are being detained in airports, are now probably going to die? I am just so ashamed of this country. This isn’t the America I want to live with. We are a country of immigrants and targeting “Muslim” countries based on such a small subset of people is so fucking ignorant.
I will probably come back and write more at some point, but for right now, I am disgusted. Not just with Trump because a small part of me almost doesn’t blame him. Yes, he’s abhorrent and disgusting, but at the same time, he wouldn’t have gotten to where he was if he didn’t have people like Steve Bannon pushing him along the way and droves of people who are ready to support him no matter how terrible his decisions are. So when Trump supporters argue that they aren’t racist and sexist etc., etc., etc., I will ask you to account for this. For whatever reason you voted for this man, this ^^^ is what is happening now. You are accountable for your part in this.
For my part, I am looking into everything I can do to help. I am educating my friends and family, I am making calls to my local representatives. It may not be much, but I am going to be my lovely, righteous snowflake self throughout this entire Presidency. This is the exact shit I fucking predicted and I’m beyond disgusted.
Post # 4
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Helper bee
MrsMeowton : YES YES YES! No use me typing a response because you hit the nail right on the head. That man is now responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, and I am fucking heartbroken.
Post # 5
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Helper bee
MrsMeowton : I was going to edit my post but I will just add to yours. I was reading some green card holders now cannot come home. Wth is going on. This is beyond disgusting. It’s criminal if you ask me.
Post # 6
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Busy bee
What are the thoughts from those who voted from trump? I know you’re out there and most of you are good people.
Post # 7
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Buzzing bee
I am horrified by this and so happy to be Canadian. We will take these people. Disgusting.
Post # 8
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Bumble Beekeeper
For those who say “this is not a Muslim ban,” this is from Michael Flynn Jr’s twitter. He was to be one of Trump’s security advisors but got fired after being one of the main re-broadcasters of the “pizzagate” rumors, and his father is Michael Flynn, national security advisor.
Post # 9
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Honey bee
Yeah and he’s going to make safe spaces for them in Syria…. yunno … like camps.
Boy if anyone could use a fat dose of life to humble them…
oh also all of the children that will enevitably die? Yeah thank goodness he stopped all those abortions. Wouldn’t want any kids to suffer.
Post # 10
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Bumble Beekeeper
There are protests popping up in many cities, mainly those with big international airports (since the banned people are being detained at their points of entry). If you can get to a protest, go do it! Chicago, NYC (JFK airport), DC (Dulles), San Francisco.
Post # 11
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Newbee
I fear that if Pauline Hanson ever becomes Prime Minister of Australia she will do the same thing. It sickens me how many people support her.
Post # 12
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Helper bee
- Wedding: LA Athletic Club
America is no longer the land of the free. I encourage every able body to not stand down with this fight. My fiancé and I spent the weekend at LAX peacefully protesting this injustice. His parents and family are refugees from Iraq and my father’s side are immigrants from Mexico. We are both clinicians and activists so we aren’t giving up without a fight, every voice counts.
Post # 13
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Bumble bee
I’m Canadian and it’s unbelievable everything that has happened since Trump’s inauguration. I’ve followed the news and watched in shock as to everything that has occurred.
I am interested in what other country’s responses will be to Trump, especially his immigration ban. Currently, the Canadian parliament is holding an emergency debate about what our response will be. I am heartened to hear that all those speaking are in agreement that we need to do something, but the question is how.
Some of the ideas being suggested are bringing in more refugees and overturning the “Safe Third Country Agreement,” which would mean that refugees who are denied entry in the US can seek asylum in Canada. (I think I am understanding it correctly – it’s the first time that I have heard and read about it).
I am curious for those from outside the US, what responses are you seeing in your countries? I wonder if Trump’s decisions will have lasting effects on the relationships between the US and its allies.
Post # 14
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Buzzing Beekeeper
Keroppi : Silence. The Australian Government is refusing to speak which is being interrupted as support. But then again we have one of the worst policies for refugees and asylum seekers in the developed world so hardly surprising. Wait I lied Scott Morrison (MP- minister for social services) has been vocal about the world catching up to Australias “successful” policies.
We have a shameful history of our treatment of refugees and asylum seekers, not that you will hear about it due to the media gag order. All we can do is to continue fighting. For example a refugee in an Australian detention centre on Naru committed suicide due to the trump ban but you won’t hear much about that. Or the young pregnant women with complications being denied treatment in Australia and having to give birth on an Island with no nicu or services that come anywhere close to a nicu. So yeah business as usual here.
There was a piece in a newspaper today (the hearld sun) where they trotted out an Indian writer (never seen her before and I have to read the papers every business day for work so I think the ethnicity of the writer was a media tactic) telling everyone why the ban was NBD and that media reports were being overstated about the conditions faced by detainees in airports- that they were being treated well in comfort with food/drink. Totally missing the point that people aren’t protesting the conditions that these few detainees were being kept in but the point they were being detained in the first place and the legality and hypocriscy of the ban.
Unfortunately the “us vs them” rhetoric goes over well here in Australia. I mean hey they voted in the party that supports this kind of crap.
Post # 15
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Bumble bee
j_jaye : Wow, that’s atrocious! I honestly have no words…
As I was watching the debate, Elizabeth May (our only Green Party member in Parliament) read an email that she received from a 19-year-old constituent, stating that Canada needs to do something and that she doesn’t want to be on the wrong side of history.
It truly seems that the world is at a turning point with our (collective) responses to all that is going on in the world.