(Closed) Obamacare Doesn't Apply…. *NWR*

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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

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@FutureDrAtkins:  Mirena is actually levonorgestrel which is essentially progesterone, so not estrogen but if you had issues with the copper IUD, you might have issues with the mirena as well even though its plastic. 

 

Also some people are cray-cray in this thread and don’t understand how obamacare, the Catholic mandate, and university insurance works. 

 

Give planned parenthood a try, they might be able to work out something with you. Best of luck to you!

Post # 79
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

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@FutureDrAtkins:  That sucks!!! My IUD was free, my insurance covered it all and all I had was $18 copay to planned parenthood. I totally don’t blame you for getting defensive. I believe birth control for medical reasons or not is a healthcare right.

Women spend the majority of their reproductive years preventing pregnancy, and the cost of unintended pregnancies is phenomenal, free birth control is a lot less expensive than paying for WIC, headstart, welfare, etc… for unintended baby and mom. 

And whoever said that crap about giving your hubby blowjobs and why not just use a condom… condoms are one of the least effective modern contraceptive methods. They have a failure rate of 13-14%. 

Post # 80
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

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@FutureDrAtkins:  Well, I have an implanon/nexaplon, and there are threads about it on here, so you can ask me anything about it and I will answer…. except for the cost of it in the US, that is, which I cannot know! All free where I am.

We are so uninformed about this type of thing, even in the first world. Sad. I also find it disturbing that there is so much opposition to a woman taking charge of her fertility and taking social responsibility, even on these boards.

For the record, I’m one of those darned religious bees, but I also have political and religious opinions which many bees do not quite expect… maybe because I’m English? Feel free to ask… ask and you shall receive, of course Tongue Out

Post # 82
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I can’t offer anything, but just wanted to say that I’m sorry you’re going through this, OP.  This all goes to show why need a public option for healthcare that’s not influenced by employers or schools.  And I don’t think you overreacted.  At all.  In post 49, you summed up perfectly what she said to you.  She was the one out of line, not you.

Post # 84
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

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@Magdalena:  What about people who take it for both reasons?

Post # 85
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: January 2011

Sorry for going off topic a bit, but the more I hear about Obamacare the more confusing it sounds.

Are all medications covered?  If not, what’s the criteria for what’s covered?

My BCP are covered by my insurance, but the government has little to do with it.  If I didn’t choose to pay for my insurance, I would be covering the cost 100%.

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Worker bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

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@ohmybears48:  that’s a whole different issue. if you choose to associate yourself with them, be prepared to accept their rules

i didn’t make the rules, and i don’t believe in the church (of any kind)…so I stay away from them. simple enough. 

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@FutureDrAtkins:  what? you are so confusing. you want church to be separate from the state but also be taxed? do you realize that you’re contradicting yourself here?  if it’s taxed, then it’s not separate….does that make sense?

 

have you looked back into the contracts you signed when you  became part of this establishment? perhaps a clause on ‘shall abide by the rules put in place from so and so school’ was one of them. I am not saying it’s fair, but what you are asking goes against the church’s beliefs – they are not trying to change your mind nor prevent you from getting BC. they do not want to pay for it. it’s their house, their rules. 

play by them for as long as you can, and once you’re out, you can enjoy all the free bc you want. 

ps. no need to get so heated, my previous (and this comment) were calm and not attacking you at all.

 

Post # 87
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

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Post # 88
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

OP, one more voice saying how absurd it is that your insurance provider refuses to comply with best practices for women’s health care, to the point where you are being prescribed EXTRA MEDICINE that you wouldn’t even NEED if they were more sensible about their birth control formulation options. Completely frustrating and counterproductive. Planned Parenthood all the way, for minimum high-horse war-on-women craziness.

 

Post # 89
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: December 2011

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@AB Bride:  I don’t really care why people are on BC – I have been on it myself for health reasons! It had the side effect of also rendering me infertile while I was on it. But that’s not what the argument is about right? That women who need it for health purposes should have it for free? The argument is that women should be able to have it as contraception, for free.

And again notice it’s just for WOMEN. Nobody has ever suggested making contraception free for men. Wonder why that is, hmmmmm?

I really am sorry if I came off super hostile in my post, OP. This is just a really frustrating topic for me. The people who want to force others to pay for their birth control, are often the same people who demand that the church “butt out” of the debate on abortion, gay marriage, and so on.

I mean, you can’t say “keep your rosaries off my ovaries” and “it’s none of your business what I do in the bedroom” and then turn around and say “by the way, after you remove the rosaries, I demand you pay so that I can have vaginal sex without the normal biological consequences.” Do people want religious organizations involved in their sex life or not? If you want them to use their money to faciliatate your sex life, then yup, they’re in your bedroom, and you invited them in.

And I’m also super frustrated by the fact that I don’t feel it’s ethical to use the resources of these religious institutions – take their scholarship money, accept the financial aid, cash a paycheck, list them on their resume – and then shit on them in public. Again OP, I really am sorry if I came off mean earlier but… You say you literally hate most Catholics and yet you feel you are getting a great degree from a Catholic school. I just don’t get it.

Believe me I sympathize with why you wouldn’t want to have to use a condom, stick to masturbation, anal, oral etc. I wouldn’t want to just do those things either. That would suck (no pun intended). But thing is, I’m an adult. I’m responsible for myself. I know where babies come from. If I want to have a particular type of sex, and don’t want to deal with the normal risks associated with that type of sex, then it’s up to ME to take care of that. It’s not my employer’s problem, my school’s problem, my parents’ problem… it’s me and my partner’s problem to solve, and pay for the solution.

If I’m reading your posts correctly, the regular Pill causes horrible blood pressure problems for you right? So you need a special type of Pill. Even if my insurance did cover the pill, in your shoes I would give some thought to a potentially safer alternative (implanon). Also if you know you don’t want kids, look up Essure. It is hormone free, non surgical and permanent.

Post # 90
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

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@FutureDrAtkins: Ok, I’m confused Your saying you cant get birth control at all? I mean okay the catholic university isn’t offering healthcare that fully funds it. that makes sense. But birth control is a medication, you can still get it under your prescription plan. So they don’t give it to you for free… I just don’t understand why you are so upset that they won’t give you the what 15 dollar medication for free. your health insurance works off campus so just go to the nearby CVS and pay for it…. I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting you have a sexless marriage. Heck then you’d get divorced and catholics don’t like that either. LoL.  They can’t tell you how to live your life which i doubt they are doing – but they can decide what they are going to pay for.

Post # 91
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

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@Magdalena:  But I think that’s the point of separation of church and state. We are supposed to be a secular country. Yes, some states cover abortion through medicare and the citizens of those states pay taxes which is fine because they’re citizens of a secular state and country. Just because a person is from one religious group does not mean they should get exemptions for things that we as citizens are all responsible for paying for. They have the right to vote based on their religious beliefs but once the law passes the point of democracy is that we all deal with the consequences of the law. 

 

If people were able to be religous exempt from taxes, obamacare, non-discrimmination mandates, EVERYONE would find a religious reason to discrimminate. 

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