Post # 1
Ok guys… here’s my dilemma.
I hate my job, it’s a tiny new company, not stable, my boss has overdrafted before on payroll, yada yada. I make 27. I pay $200+/month for insurance bc it’s not offered.
I just got offered an AWESOME job with a NATIONAL company, great stability, great growth. 25,116. I said I’d call her back…
I want to negotiate it up but I’m scared! I mean it offers insurace so I sae $200/month already… but I am not happy with my CURRENT salary already.
NEGOTIATING TIPS?!?! I am waiting for a call back and I’m like SHAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!
Post # 3
You definitely need to negotiate for more. First of all, tell the woman that you appreciate the offer and that you’re interested in the role but that you would need a minimum of $30K or whatever you think is fair (don’t be greedy). Try salary.com for info on the typical salary in that type of job in your city. Also, be prepared for them to come back with a second offer, somewhere between their original offer and your requested amount. Finally, if they can’t move on the salary, think about asking for another week of vacation. Good luck!
Post # 4
I would call back for more info and neither accept nor reject the job. Say something like:
“I am so thrilled and honored that you offered me the job, and I think that I’d be really happy at your company. Taking the job would mean a pay cut from my current salary, however, so I am going to need to discuss the offer with my fiance before I give you my answer. Is the salary you offered firm or is there any room for negotiation?”
I have read statistics that say one of the MAJOR reasons women make less than men in the same jobs is because we accept what we’re offered and don’t negotiate! I think the important thing is to be grateful, gracious, and not accept or reject the offer. Tell her you’ll get back to her by X (tomorrow, tonight, next week, whatever is appropriate) and you need to know if the salary amount is firm before making your decision.
Post # 5
First of all, CONGRATULATIONS! So happy for you!! Second, I would simply start with, “Right now I’m making $X and it would be difficult for me to take a pay cut right now. I am so excited about this opportunity, and I would really love to work for you, but I’m sure you understand my concern.” And see what happens. After they respond, you can reiterate how many years of experience you have. Don’t let on how much you hate your current job! Good luck! This is so exciting for you!
Post # 6
I would try to find online what the average salary for someone in your field with the number of years of experience you have (as well as the same geographic location). This will give you a chance to explain why the salary needs to be higher – to be competitive with the market.
Post # 7
Corgitales sounds to be on the right track!
Post # 8
Also ask when would be the first opportunity for a review/salary increase… 6 mos? 1 year? Factor that into your negotiation too. If they can’t move on their offer, then negotiate for [and get in WRITING] that you will get a 6 mo review and salary action.
Post # 9
Corgitales had a fantastic response and great suggested wording! I may have to keep this bookmarked if/when I am in this situation.
Post # 10
Negotiate! They’re not going to take it back just because you asked for better compensation and they will respect you more. Try to be flexible and polite and be ready for them to offer a combination of salary increase and benefits. It sounds like they can afford it so they should be able to bump it up a bit 25 is pretty low.
Post # 11
Have you talked salary before with her? I can tell you that salary negotiations are very common with most jobs, but you really have to use your gut a lot.
If the salary range was brought up, say that you’d like to make $X based on the responsibilities discussed.
If salary hasn’t been brought up at all, say, “I’m interested in the offer, but the salary is a little lower than expected. Is it negotiable?”
I think I would need more specific info before giving a better answer 🙂 But generally, yeah, people negotiate.
Post # 12
I have never really tried to push for a salary negotiation, but I have read that because women are so much less likely to negotiate, we miss out on something close to $1 million over the course of our careers because for each job we don’t negotiate, we loose more three steps down the road too.
I think it’s absolutely fair to call them back, explain that you’re very interested and you’d love to join their company, but you really can’t accept a pay cut. Ask them to match your current salary, which is really not a big difference–you’re asking for less than $2,000. I think it would be fair to negotiate for $5K too, if you want something that will help with the transiton. (When I switched jobs it ended up costing us a fortune, especially due to the difference in their pay cycles, I didn’t get paid for a full four weeks.)
If they can’t budge, then you can ask for additional vacation time instead.
Post # 13
What is your bottom line? Would you take the job for 25116? If you would take it, you need to be really careful when you negotiate for a higher salary that you don’t turn down the job. If you tell them you need a minimum of 30k, they might move on to the next best applicant.
I’d write a formal letter (you can attach it to an email) laying out why you think you should get more. They should be willing to give you at least what you make now, so I’d start with that. I agree with looking at national and local averages for similar jobs and use that to negotiate.
Post # 14
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Are there bonuses at this company? You’d want to consider that too. Do you get more vacation days than the other company? Is there a title bump?
The scary thing is this: our entire earning potential is determined by our starting salaries. So you really don’t want to take a salary hit unless you’re changing career paths totally.
Post # 15
Is there anyone you can talk to at that company to see how it feels to ask for more?
Hoenstly, asking for a higher salary is highly looked down upon in my field at this company, so I may not have the normal perspective. I took the salary I was offered. I was always wondering if i made the right decision in not negotiation for an extra chunk, though. Plenty of other engineers were making 5-10K more than me. However, when I got here, I realized that there is a reason my company offers you what they do–it’s a calculated amount. It turns out all of our level 1 engineers make a certain salary. Apparently, asking for a larger amount of money could have jeopardized my offer so I’m glad I took it.
You could always ask for a reevaluation of your salary in 6 months when you prove yourself. I got a pay increase in 6 months b/c my bosses were impressed with me. Not sure why…but stil.l
Also, for me, it’s not like I had another offer to be like “well so and so offered me this, so I want you to match it….”
What other benefits do you get? Sometimes the benefits are worth way more than the dollar salary amount, ya know?
However, I think it’s fair to tell them you want to KEEP your current salary. They don’t need to know about the healthare. Just say, “well, i was wondering if you coudl match my curretn salary of 27K”. IF they say no, take the job. 1800 is NOT that much over the course of a year, aprticularly with healthcare built in. Just be leery of asking for too much of a salary.
Post # 16
I agree to get on Salary.com to make sure you know what is acceptable to ask for. Then follow Corgitales’ script. Make sure you express your interest in accepting the position just as the script did. They will work with you if you show them you want to be part of their company.