(Closed) OMG, my trainer is an f***ing idiot!

posted 8 years ago in Fitness
Post # 17
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@reebee:  A pound is 3500 calories.

Post # 18
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: February 2012

Uhhh I eat clean and work out and I consume around 1800 calories a day. You need to eat calories to gain muscle.

Post # 19
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

Wow, as a certified personal trainer and exercise physiologist, this heavily concerns me. Pretty much all trainers have very little training in dietetics/nutrition and should not be giving nutritional advice that isn’t based off the Canada’s Food Guide or American Food pyramid. That right there is malpractice… well in Canada it is. 

He is completely and utterly wrong. It scares me that others who are being trained by him aren’t thinking about his recommendations more critically. This kind of advice could potentially cause permanent harm to someone whether it be a slowed-down metabolic system, or falling while working out because of low blood sugars. 

Post # 20
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

The pp’s are right, you need about 1500-2000 for healthy maintenance if you’re active. 1200-1500 for weight loss. Anything lower like 800-1100 needs to be closely supervised by a medical doctor and is only used in extreme cases of clinical obesity where for health reasons their excess weight is more damaging than the low calorie intake would be. Ignore this guy, he’s going to make you sick. If you want to maintain figure out what your burn with your RMR/BMR and physical activity and that’s how many calories you can consume and break even. IF you wanted to lose a little I believe 0.5-2lbs per weeks is fine if you’re overweight, over 2lbs per weeks is risky unless you’re clinically obese. As pp said 3500Cal is 1lb so that would be a 500Cal deficit per day for 1lb loss per week.

ETA: My aunt has a degree in Sports Medecine and she was even concerned when I said I was on a 1500Cal diet. So this guy is way out of line and putting people at risk.

Post # 21
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

You are right that a 1500 cal deficit is a lot… in fact, far too much. That’s just silly. But as for the calories…

The received wisdom is that you shouldn’t go below 1200 cals, and you should aim for a deficit of 500 a day, which will make you lose 1lb a week.

I tried this when I started on my current diet. It worked initially… and then stopped. Completely stopped. Then I spoke to some of the Asian girls. Here, the received wisdom is 800 cal a day and a 500 cal deficit as “Asians are built differently”. I looked at them… and at me. We are pretty much identical heights and builds (ie teeny tiny midgets). They said that the average resting cal expenditure for a girl here was about 1300 cal a day, because they were smaller people in general.

I followed their lead and dropped to 800 cal. I started losing 1/2 to 1lb a week again. Go figure. So it does seem to depend on your size and build…

Post # 24
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@Mrs.SplatterPaint:  How about talking to a doctor and getting a MEDICAL opinion on whether or not this plan is healthy, will your husband take that seriously? Might be harder to blow off than just another trainer.

Post # 25
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

@Rachel631:  an 800Cal diet is rarely safe, if it’s working for you, great, but I would double check with a doctor if you haven’t already to make sure you’re getting enough nutrients to keep your body healthy.

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

Anyone eating less calories than their basal metabolic rate (BMR) is setting themselves up for disaster. 

BMR is what your body needs in calories just to stay awake and barely move. I know for me, I need 1500 calories just to function, and that doesn’t include exercise or even doing activities of daily living (cleaning, walking to the store, etc).

Here is a BMR calculator: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

 

Post # 28
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

WTF?! If you’re working out that hard if anything you need MORE calories to help keep your muscles growing!

This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Post # 30
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013 - Ontario, Canada

Ok this man is wrong on so many levels.. I work our 5 times a week, have had a (professinal) trainer that I have seen for years, several of my close friends are personal trainers or athletes and I have lost 60 pounds/4 dress sizes myself and learned a thing or two along the way and this is bull basically.

1. you need at least 600-1000 calories to survive i.e. 600 would be if you are in a coma basically and it is just the minimum amount for your vital organs to function. To go below 1000 if you are working out as much as you are on a regular basis is potentially life threatening!

2. If you are working out 6 days a week you need to fuel your body accordingly. That includes carbs, protein AND good fats. Get the balance right(40% carbs, 40% protein, 20% fat ratio in each meal)  and you will loose the fat quickly but in a healthy comfortable way. More importantly – it will stay off!

3. Yes, you can go on a CONTROLLED 900 cals a day diet before a competition BUT that would be for maximum a week or 2, not as part of a weight-loss programme as you will gain it back once you start eating normally again.

Sorry to go no a bit but things like this really upset me! He is supposed to be professional and, as such, he is someone that people trust when they give out information.

 

Anyway – sorry about my rant – best of luck to reach your goals and stay strong, sounds like you are doing the right way! 🙂

 

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