Post # 1
I got this from Clean Origin and 2/3 of the jewelers I went to have complimented it but the last one I visited said that it had a bad bow tie and that I should look into getting a real diamond (smaller, more color, and more inclusions) for the same price. Is the bow tie bad or do you think it was good for the dimensions and price? (1.18ct, F color, VVS2, Very Good cut, 3.4 thousand) thanks in advance for your help
Post # 2
A lot of ovals have bow ties. If you love the stone that’s all that matters! I think it looks nice! I find it a little strange that a jewelry suggested you get a “real” diamond considering lab diamonds ARE real diamonds. Also, I find it strange that they suggested that you go down in specs like color and clarity … maybe they just want you to buy a stone from them?
Anyway if you’re happy with the stone then keep it! 🙂 Austin1 :
Post # 3
I think you’re going to have trouble with some jewelers who want to make you feel bad about purchasing a lab diamond so that you’ll purchase from them. You can definitely find a top quality oval lab diamond with minimal bowtie for a much better price if you don’t mind lab diamonds. It’s definitely not worse quality because it’s lab made!
That being said, I was not impressed with the quality of diamonds when I was searching clean origin. I got really deep into the diamond search and there’s a recommended crown/pavillion angle combos that will help you find the right quality diamond:
Here’s a good guide:
And from my experience, with the carat/clarity/etc parameters I was looking at at the time, Clean Origin didn’t really have anything that fit the build. If you want some mind clarity, I’d compare some of these values to the one on your certificate. But the truth is, these are just guidelines, and they can’t tell you as much as it looks like in person.
I do notice a bowtie, but I can’t tell how distinct it is, and it’ll look a lot different in a setting. If you’re looking for other lab diamond avenues, I’d highly recommend emailing D.NEA Diamonds or Soha Diamond Co who have great upgrade policies and customer service. They also had a ton of great quality inventory. BrilliantEarth as well, but they’ll be slightly more pricy with no upgrade policy.
Also, I would avoid going below an excellent cut, as it can make a huge difference in the sparkle and possibly bow-tie effect.
Very good luck with your search, I almost went for an oval, they’re just gorgeous 🙂
Post # 4
Can’t recommend enough prioritizing the cut, it can really make a huge difference!
Post # 5
What do they mean by “real” diamond? I think the stone is beautiful and what matters is if YOU are happy with it. If not, keep searching! I believe Pricescope is a good place for advice on diamond specs?
Post # 6
I think they meant “not lab grown.” But I may try to find one with a less noticeable bowtie, I’m not entirely sure
Post # 7
I wouldn’t listen to the jewellers! I agree with pps! They are trying to sell you a stone from them. Your diamond is real and I actually LOVE the bow tie!!! It’s just the way most ovals are cut and I think it’s really beautiful. In terms of cut ovals don’t really have a standards like a round brilliant cut. It is truly beautiful bee. How will you be setting this stunner? Austin1 :
Post # 8
the oval looks lovely! Most ovals have bow ties, some are more noticeable but I feel like the one you have isn’t that bad at all. How do you plan to set this? Solitarie? Halo?
Post # 9
don’t think the bow tie is bad at all! I think it’s a very pretty diamond 🙂
Also that jeweler’s logic makes no sense. Mined diamonds are just as likely to have a bow tie as lab diamonds.
Post # 10
Hi! I had originally wanted an oval ring and spent months looking at probably 100 ovals.
So 99.99% ovals will have bowties because of the elongated cut. The only oval cut without one is the Opulence oval which is cut kind of like a round brilliant. However it is more expensive and faces up much smaller due to to the deeper % required.
Anyway, it looks like it has it has a large-ish obvious bow tie. The bow tie can be dark (similar to yours) or in rarer cases reflect back white light and be less obivous.
I would take any advice from a jeweler who is trying to sell u a competing stone with a grain of salt because they can’t help but be biased and have a vested interest.
With that said you have a beautiful diamond, but if it were me, I would keep looking for one with a smaller/whiter bowtie.
Post # 11
- Wedding: April 2019 - Huntsville, AL
Sort of sounds like your jewelry is just trying to get you to buy from him instead. I have a fat shaped marquise and it also has a noticeable bowtie, but it has never bothered me because I saw it as just being a part of having an elongated stone.
I think your stone is lovely and there is no need to return it. 🙂
Post # 12
Thanks for all of the replies everyone! The nicer and more professional of the jewelers I visited offered to show me natural diamonds of the same price range as the one I have, but I’m also keeping an open mind on keeping my diamond. I am planning on setting it in a halo with prong set diamonds on the side! My girlfriend told me all of her specifications so I can’t mess it up too badly! I was just nervous about the bowtie!
Post # 13
Here’s a few more pictures after gently wiping it!
Post # 14
Yes it’s absolutely stunning! I think a halo setting will be perfect! So happy your keeping it! Please update when you have the ring made I’d love to see it on your fiancés hand. Congrats Austin1 :
Post # 15
That jewelle is super rude. do not go back to him – what a shammy. He’s trying to sell you one of his stones with that comment. how rude.
Your stone looks beautiful