Opponents of stricter gun control – what would it take to change your mind?

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 541
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

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Gsxr06 :  For all his good sense, your ex is statistically more likely to shoot his current partner, himself, or someone else in his family than defend himself with that gun: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9715182/

Unfortunately, all we have is a twenty-year old study because “rational” Second Amendment defenders have secured a federal ban on funding research into gun violence. They don’t want an evidence-based debate and I can guess why.

I am sure you believe your ex is the exception. Everyone does, that’s the problem. Finally, I’m not opposed to sensible handgun ownership because at this juncture, I’m happy to meet gun advocates halfway. But an AR-15 is not a hunting rifle. Your husband may use it to hunt, but it was designed for military combat – it was designed to take human life as quickly as possible while keeping the shooter at a distance. Americans pioneered the West without semi-automatic rifles – what could your husband possibly need one for? If he simply enjoys the firepower and sport of it – something I can’t relate to but I understand – he should join the military, as it is a military-grade weapon. 

Presumably your husband has a driver’s license. He took classes, spent hours completing one-on-one training, passed a test that is subject to regular renewal, and now he drives a car and pays money to insure that car and himself against any damage he might do to others. Do you oppose your husband underdoing the same process for the guns he owns? 

Post # 542
7528 posts
Bumble Beekeeper

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Gsxr06 :  Thank you for sharing your perspective – that was a thoughtful, well-reasoned post. It was also honest, which I appreciate (none of the bullshit about “knives can kill too!” or “but Chicago!”).

It seems like there is some common ground, which encourages me. You say in your post that you’re in favor of stricter background checks and a waiting period. That’s one of the key things gun control advocates are pushing for, against strong resistance from NRA-backed legislators. Yes, there are gun control advocates who’d like to see a total ban on guns, just as there are gun rights proponents who are resistant to even the mildest controls, like banning bump stocks. But I think the majority of people are somewhere in the middle, only their voices are drowned out by the more extreme opinions on either side.

How would you feel about increasing the age requirement for purchasing semi-automatic rifles to 21, like Trump has proposed? To me that’s the definition of “common sense” gun control. You can’t buy a handgun til you’re 21, but you can buy an AR15 at 18? How is that logical? 

Full disclosure: I’m in favor of a complete ban of semi-automatic rifles, but I’d settle for raising the age to 21 and enforcing a stricter vetting process for now. 

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