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- Wedding: July 2020 - Ireland
FH and I mapped out the honeymoon plans tonight and plan to book tomorrow! We will spend July 20-August 4 all over Italy, and then August 4-7 in Paris. The cost of flights (Dublin to Rome, Milan to Paris, and Paris to Dublin) along with hotels (all with free breakfast and parking except no parking in Venice – we’ll park before entering the city) and rental car comes to a grand total of $3,355 for 18 days. Of course, this does not include activities, other meals, gas for the car and other incidentals. We are flying in and out of Dublin because we are getting married in Ireland and it’s cheaper than one way tickets from home to Dublin and then from Paris to home. The price I stated above doesn’t include the Dublin flights because they are part of our wedding budget. Our rough estimate is the final cost will be $5,000-$6,000.
Are we being fleeced here? I’ve never planned a trip this big, but I feel like we are getting okay deals. We prefer hotels to Airbnb for various reasons (and they turn out to be cheaper with free brekkie and parking included based on our research) and we need a rental car due to the amount of luggage we’ll be hauling around (and we like the freedom).
If it matters at all, the Italy intinerary is 3 days Rome, 2 in Naples, 3 in Amalfi, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice, and 1 in Milan.
Post # 2
bowlingallie1989 : sounds alright given you’re going in peak season.
id ditch the rental car in Paris though. You won’t need it, the public transport is excellent for sight seeing round the city.
it might also be cheaper to just return the rental car when you get to Venice and if needed get another rental or not bother for the final leg.
tbh looking at your itenery id drop the rental car all together. You won’t need it in Rome so you’d be paying loads to just have a parked car. Driving in Rome is hard and much of the city isn’t actually accessible by car.
Post # 3
That sound like a good deal. I would advise re-thinking the rental car. Unless you plan on visiting South Tuscany it really is not necessary at least for Italy. We did 2 week in Italy all by train. We bought all fast trains 90 days out and saved a substantial amount of money. We did Milan, Cinque Terre, Florence, Rome and Venice all by trains.
If you do decided to rent a car. Please be careful of parking and going site seeing with your valuables in your car. I did extense research and found that break ins are common. Also be aware and study the ZTL. You dont want to face hefty fines up to 2-3 years after your trip. Become a memebr of Scott Cheap tickets travel community on facebook so read on.
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bowlingallie1989 : you get more freedom by packing light than you do by having a car in a tourist city. Personally I’d cut down to one bag so you don’t have to spend so much time and money dealing with your stuff.
Onebag.com has great advice on packing light and will change your life if you’re inclined to use it.
Post # 5
It sounds about right to me. Hotels are probably eating up the biggest portion of your budget. If you’re staying in the city centers you’ll be paying more. My husband and I spent about 3.5k total on 9 days in London not including the hotels because we used our hotel points for that.
Post # 6
The price seems quite cheap for flights and hotels.
If it was my trip I’d spend more time in each place and maybe cut one of the places. You have a lot of moving around which will eat up a lot of time. Checking out of 1 hotel, travelling to the new city, checking back into a hotel. You will end up with very little time in the city to enjoy yourselves.
I agree with the others about the rental car. Can you store some of your stuff in Ireland versus lugging it all over? The car is not going to be useful in the major cities. There is also a lot of scams with parking tickets and times you can enter the city tickets.
Post # 7
Are you from the US? Personally I would not want to rent a car in some of those bigger cities. Suuuper stressful/crowded driving and the signs are not in english often times.
Post # 8
Where are you flying from originally? That trip sounds pretty inexpensive honestly.
and yeah, you do not need a car in Paris. It would be a pain in the ass to have one.
Post # 9
A car in Milan, Rome, Paris and Venice sounds like a nightmare.
Post # 10
I agree with pp you do not need a rental car in Paris or Rome as both have great ways to get around and it would be an absolute waste of money and time. For Rome part of the charm is walking through the alleyways etc. you can just do the hop on hop off bus to get around the city as it stops at all the major landmarks and you can walk around the city to each of the major landmarks with ease. Also, the Metro system is very simple to use as it only has three lines.
I was recently in Milan and found that it was easy to get around by Taxi. I haven’t been to Venice but from what I have researched, you do not need a car.
Hotels – consider looking at hotels that don’t include breakfast as well. When I visit Rome, I stay very close to Vatican City and my hotels were wonderful and not expensive at all. I stayed in one that didn’t include breakfast but it wasn’t a big deal there are restaurants nearly everywhere.
Post # 11
Seriously echoing PPs, ditch the car!! Driving is an absolute nightmare in Italy (speaking as someone who grew up driving in North America at least) and the public transport system is all you need. If you are doing a city sightseeing trip it is going to be a huge stress and expense instead of a convenience.
Post # 12
I agree that the price sounds pretty reasonable and DEFINITELY ditch the car. The car will be more of hassle than a perk especially since you’re flying between Italy and France (if you were flying to Rome and meandering your way across the continent I could see renting a car, but having to get/return multiple cars and deal with congested city traffic is a waste).
Post # 13
bowlingallie1989 : The flight and hotel cost sounds reasonable. I suspect you are underestimating your overall spending, though. The $6,000 amount gives you $147 per day. It would take some serious planning and sacrificing on what you can do to stay under that amount. I’d significantly up the budget or consider a shorter trip.
We recently did an 8 day trip to France (Paris and Bordeaux) and it was nice to order wine with meals, not worry about meal prices, do a wine tour, not worry about entrance fees to various places, and be able to buy souveniers.
Post # 14
I just noticed that you plan to rent a car. This is the best advice anyone can give you: DON’T plan to drive, and pack light.
Driving and finding parking in these cities is a nightmare. You will cause yourself an immense amount of stress by trying it. I imagine that parking fees are high as well. Pack as light as you possibly can because no matter how you travel, you will be doing some walking carrying your bags, and likely down cobblestone streets. It’s not like in the US where you park in a garage connecting to the hotel.
Post # 15
The price seems pretty low to me. I’d be worried about underestimating the cost of food/entrance fees/entertainment/etc.
The rental car, however, will be a bigger PITA than it’s worth, plus gas in Europe is quite expensive.
Downsize the luggage you plan to bring and you can also often store luggage at the airport or even ship a bag or two home early.