Our society has Class-ism?

posted 3 months ago in Career
Post # 2
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: July 2017

I’m a server and I treat everyone in a polite manner.  Yeah, I may get annoyed but I don’t let it show.  You never know who will leave a nice tip.  If someone is rude to me, that is when I am not overly attentive.  I do know many servers that do judge based on age, race, dress.  I have never had someone turn there nose upward at me when I say I’m a server.  I make good money serving, I’m going to school for a second degree, I pay my bills, save money, and go on trips so I don’t think there is anything to look down on.  I do not think anyone should be looked down on for what they do or for what their academic level is.  What is the point? 

Post # 3
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2015

Is this a rhetorical question? Yes of course classism is alive and well. And no it is not right or good. People judge everything as a cue about class- dress, grammar, accents, jobs – yours, your DHs, your parents jobs even, where you live and what kind of house, rent or own, what you drive, where/if you vacation, the music you listen to, whether your favorite restaurant is Olive Garden or le Bernardin, where you grocery shop, education level (and level of your Darling Husband and family) your possessions, affiliations, engagement ring!  Everything. 

Post # 5
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2015

sweetgirlnextdoor :  even the way your dress when your being a “slob” is a signal. People judge subconsciously constantly. It’s best not to worry about it and do your thing as you see fit, because it’s a game you’ll never win! 

Post # 6
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Helper bee

I’m in Seattle and people are treated differently here if they work at Amazon. It has taken over Seattle. People blame Amazonians for a lot of social and economic problems in our city. So if anything, the liberals on Seattle treat those who presumably make a lot of money at Amazon poorly and are VERY vocal about it. 

Post # 7
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Blushing bee

Everyone judges, on things, people,circumstances you name it. We are constantly judging. It’s the fact, just be honest to yourself. 

Post # 9
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2019

There’s a very interesting elitism attached to where you went to university in this part of the world.  My ex was apparently very determined that I know that his new girlfriend went to one of the highest ranked universities in the capital city and very disappointed when he heard that I was confused instead of shamed.  I’m not from around here and I had no idea why his friends had sought he out to tell me this or why they were so stunned that I had no reaction beyond “…kay.  Is he ever going to give back my key?”  It was meant to be devastating.

Since then, I’ve noticed that pople will just trot out their universities and those of others all the time.  Someone’s new boyfriend is rude?  Well, he went to NTU so he’s still obviously a wonderful person!  Someone’s marrying a man who went to Min-Chun?  Ugh!  No, it doesn’t matter that he’s a sucessful businessman now – that’s NOT a top school!

It’s very specific classism that doesn’t exist as much in other parts of society.  But this one thing is a real sticking point.

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2014

sweetgirlnextdoor :  My own mother for sure treats me less human because I don’t make very much money. Yeah, classism exists, even in lil’ ol’ America. I do think it exists moreso in different parts of the country. I’ve lived in 4 different states.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee

Very much so.

People tend to only value the high-dollar educations; people who worked like hell to get through someplace that isn’t Ivy League are often looked down upon as ‘not being good enough’.  

Also, looking down on a person and making negative assumptions about them because of the area of the country in which they live is very prevalent – just look at the talking heads still going on about the election and how ‘hick’s’ caused problems.  Just because someone lives someplace other than the west coast or upper east coast does not make them less of an individual or an intellectual.

Post # 12
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Blushing bee

There is extensive literature investigating classism in America. Yes, it definitely exists and yes, people tend to stereotype and judge others based upon social class both consciously and subconsciously. The majority of people will modify their behaviors when interacting with those of different social classes without even realizing they are doing it. Look up “class work” in Google sholar and there is an article by some authors from Penn State University that is really insightful.

Post # 13
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Helper bee

Honestly the things that signal class are so tiny and specific, you’ll never trick the system.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee

I work in HR, and I see a lot of people who apply with a Ph.D. That’s nice, but you have no work experience. Just because you put Dr. in front of your name doesn’t mean anything to me. People have called me to ask why they don’t get interviews. They expect to step right into our middle to high level positions. No, honey. 

I once ran to the mall to look for a gift for my niece. I was sick that day and looked terrible. The salespeople at a mall jewelry store completely ignored me even though I was the only person in there. I pretended to look around until someone finally asked me if I wanted help with anything. I said, “No,” and walked out. 

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: April 2013

wasabipea :  Ha ha!  “What are the pros and cons of being treated differently?”  This is so totally for homework.  

But I miss school, so happy to take a stab at it.

  1. Yes obviously classism exists in America.  
  2. Yes, classism extends to the kind of job you have and the kind of education you have.  However, those are only one small piece of the puzzel.  Classim is also wrapped up in your accent, your skin color, the way you wear your hair, the bag you cary, and how you cary yourself at all.
  3. What are the pros of classism.  From a personal point of view, if you are a part of the right class, the benefits to you personally are huge.  Better job opportunities, a more frictionless time moving through the world, more acceptance, and more opportunitiy to see yourself reflected in a positive light in the mainstream.  Policitical agendas are likely to include items that benefit you, and your concerns are taken seriously by the institutions in your country.  I cannot think of any pros of classism to society as a whole, instead I think the pros are to the individual who benefits from the higher status only.
  4. What are the cons of classism.  Well, first, if you are in the “wrong” class the cons are all the oppositie of the pros for those in the “right” group.  On a societal level, the cons are obviously huge.  Classim perpetuates injustice, it reduces the valuing of idea for their own merit, it divides people, it stops people from identifying and fixing problems, it creates “others” that robs us of our humanity.  All the same problems with racism/sexism/homophobia/other forms of hatred.  Ultimately this kind of prejudice stops humans from attaining their highest levels of acualization which is bad for the economy, for the progression of science and innovation, etc.  

I feel like that’s a pretty basic answer, but maybe it’s helpful.  Good luck!

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