Post # 16
sweetgirlnextdoor : Yes. I’m a lawyer, and people immediately start treating me differently when they find out. (In a good way.) They assume I’m smart, hard working, etc. Sometimes clients or other attorneys assume I’m the paralegal or secretary, because I’m a woman. (Yes, that also happens.) They start acting more respectfully when they find out I’m the attorney. Additionally, people who have been extremely rude to my paralegal or secretary, will apologize when I get on the phone with them. They will stop yelling and behave deferentially.
My fiance experiences the same thing. He’s a minority, and they treat him differently when they find out he’s an engineer. If he worked at the 7-11, he’d be the dirt under their feet.
What can I tell you? People suck.
Post # 17
minimalistbeex : I never knew that, I have a family member that works at Amazon in Seattle.
I am a restaurant manager and as soon as I tell people where I work they look at me in a different light. It’s very discouraging because I do make a decent wage and I do dress nicely. If I don’t tell people where I work I’m treated respectively.
Post # 18
I once was part of a group at school that helped people navigate a certain local government process. I went along with one of these individuals to help them schedule an appointment and sat in a chair and watched because I had naively been hoping to empower her.
The person at the desk was rude and condescending and claimed no appointment could be made. I walked over, interrupted, and the moment the words “I’m a student at X…” escaped my mouth, all of a sudden the person was cooperative and yes we could schedule the appointment for 2 days from then absolutely.
It was really dispiriting because this was a worker at a government agency who was denying someone an appointment that was legally hers and that ended up being vital to her survival. I shouldn’t have had to intervene, but because she was from the working poor, the worker was willing to ruin her life because the worker was lazy.
Post # 19
wasabipea : i think so.. the question sounds very essayish lol
Post # 20
Yes, obviously there is classism. It’s pretty hilarious when it’s misapplied though.
Snobbish people treat me a certain way when they find out my family is fairly political, I went to high-ranked schools, and that I work as a conservator (a job that sounds very posh if you don’t realize it’s low paying and 80% scraping mold off things). Meanwhile they act VERY differently towards my fiancé who did not go to college, even though he is executive chef at a place most snobs line up to visit. I like to point out at every opportunity that he is essentially my sugar daddy since he’s the one who pays the bills, is amazing at choosing investments, and has a hefty savings account. Meanwhile I make like 40k a year in an area where that is much less than your average McDonald’s manager.
TL;DR people are dumb
Post # 21
Yes, we as a society collectively allow tax cuts for the rich and incredibly low wages for women dominated fields including teaching, social work, and caregiving. It is called intersectionality, because we do not live in a vaccuum. Our race, gender, orientation, education level, income, language, etc all impact how others percieve us. As you said, these are researched phenomena, so yes, they exist.
Post # 22
Classism is definitely alive and well. I’m a college student so I can get away with working as a server or cashier but I’ve noticed that my older coworkers get hounded by their families about when they are going to get “real” jobs. I also grew up right on the Kentucky / Indiana line and have a pretty thick southern drawl. It’s obviously not a problem at home but someone literally told my friend (they obviously didn’t know she was my friend) that they didn’t want a “dumb hillbilly” in their group for the semester project. I actually ranked higher than everyone else in the class for that particular project so I wasn’t too discouraged.
Post # 23
I dont feel it , I treat everyone based on what is in their heart , I think I am treated this way from everyone I know . In Europe , no one talks about status , or what they do for a living . University is free, so there are very very many professionals employed as non – professionals , as there is an over abundance . Also when meeting someone it would be quite rude to ask “what do you do ?'” Rather you ask , “What do you do for enjoyment ? “
Post # 24
I work at an animal hospital as a nurse and you always know you’re going to have problems when someone starts the conversation with what they do for a living.
It tends to mean “I am a very Important person who makes Money and thus you are below me. I am calling to demand the answer I want, regardless of if it’s correct or rational. This will happen because you don’t make as much Money.”
I’m not saying all well off people are like this or that’s exactly what they’re thinking, but when someone announces their job along side their demands the implication is clear. Making money entitles them to certain things.
Also in Seattle and I’ve never heard of anything so silly as what you’re suggesting.
Post # 25
I got judged in a small supermarket here a while ago. It was in a relatively poor part of town (that’s not a judgement, that’s a fact) and I stopped there because DH’s friend’s inlaws own it. DH’s friend’s son has coeliacs, so the store carries a good Girlfriend range. I too am coeliac, and appreciate that range. This is a small town in New Zealand, if that makes any difference.
Anyway, I grab my things and feel super uncomfortable. I was getting FILTHY looks from staff and other customers. When I go to pay my card declines. I had completely forgotten that I had shifted my accounts around the day before, and had grabbed that card out of habit. The checkout lady, who would have been in her 50s or 60s said “What that tells me is there’s money there, just not in that account” while looking me up and down, the way high school girls look at each other. I was so floored, I paid with another card and quickly left.
I still can’t believe it. It was SO rude and made me feel so self-conscious about how I dress. Needless to say, I haven’t been back!
Post # 26
Every society has a “class system”. That’s just the way things are.
Post # 27
Even that halo effect is real. This cute blondie has gotten out of numerous speeding and traffic tickets. I’ve been pulled over going 20 over the speed limit (construction zone greatly lowered the speed limit I was used to following) and without my driver’s license — legally you can go to jail for driving without a license. But I have yet to receive even a ticket… I’m not trying to brag. I’m just pointing out how some people are definitely treated differently based on how they look.
Post # 28
oneinamillion : Agreed. People judge each other constantly for a whooole range of things.
Where I live there’s also a lot of ‘reverse classism’ (a stupid term because it’s still judging based on class, but there you go) where people judge those that look extremely wealthy as being shallow and materialistic.
You do you and don’t worry about other people’s judgements. Everyone is judged for something.
Post # 29
100% yes I and my close friends are treated differently based on what we look like. We have money, we go nice places and do nice things, and that confuses people.
Actually, when we travel we get asked quite frequently if we’re a famous band or musicians. We’re not, but we don’t have the type of careers people look at us as expect.
Post # 30
smalltownbigworld : Totally random, but I was scrolling through and saw you were from Kentuckiana! I grew up 30 miles north of Louisville in Scott County. Small world!