Post # 1
Okay.. We finally got a photographer pinned down that we wanted..Well…sorta… We decided that before we signed any contract we wanted to have engagement photos done first for a couple of reasons. First we wanted to look at his work before we signed a contract and second we wanted to get more money saved before we threw a bunch of money in to one thing. Well, I paid the $75 to get the engagement photos taken and they came out great..I was a tad put off at how much he was charging for prints ($40.00 for 1 8×10 and he wont do a copyright release) but his work was so good I wasnt going to make an issue about it. I submitted my order yesterday afternoon. With my order submission I asked 2 questions..First one was How long does it typically take to get prints back, and the second question was did he want the payment when I went to go pick my prints up. The next email I recieved was “When are we going to get the contract and deposit taken care of?” word for word..In fact that is all he wrote. I found it rude he was answering my quesiton with a question and never did answer my question at all. My Fiance said he is just thinking about business and with the holidays coming he is probably just trying to get some business closed, so he didnt seem to mind. It is still bugging me!!! Should I let it go??
Post # 3
I think that is just business.
It seems like he is just asking a straight-forward question. But I know how off-putting it can be- you want your questioned answered.
Post # 4
mmm, red flag!!! If all he cares about is getting you to sign a contract, then that is a big problem
Post # 5
Yikes – business doesn’t have to mean being rude.. on the contrary, he should be extra polite if you haven’t signed with him yet. Red flag is right!
Post # 7
I would call him and talk to him. You can’t read tone in emails, he should’ve answered your question but I imagine that if you do sign a contract then the payment info is different (Like my photographer takes the engagement session cost out of the wedding photography cost) so he wanted to know so he can get it ready. Who knows.
Post # 8
I find that response odd. Perhaps talk on the phone to avoid potential confusion and get a real feel for working with him moving forward.
What you asked for I have to believe is not the norm. Perhaps he felt you were just trying to get cheap engagement photos?
Different photographers have different pricing structures. The fact that he only charged you 75 dollars for your engagement pictures to me means he only covered his time and talent of the session with that fee. He is now covering his time and overhead, and profit on doing the editing and processing the photos and fullfilling your order on the sale of prints which is pretty typical. I would also say that 40 dollars is about average for an 8×10 when buying ala cart. Pro labs cost more than Walmart plus there is shipping. If he gave you copyrights to the photos and a CD he would get no print sales. If this is what you want, negotiate with him. I think the session would of cost 200-300 though if that was the deliverable (a cd with printing rights).
Post # 9
I sort of agree with USER for once. I think he did this e-shoot on the cheap to book the wedding and doesn’t want to invest any more time into a booking he is now probably wondering if he will even get. There are certain questions I’m comfortable answering before I have a signed contract/deposit, but certain things like spending hours planning your wedding photography timeline with you down to the hour, etc., are things I don’t like to do until after booking is official.
However, you weren’t asking an unreasonable question at all, and for me I wouldn’t have a problem answering plenty of questions like this before booking. He may be different though, and I don’t know how much time he’s invested in you already so far, so he may not be comfortable talking about anything more wedding related until booking. I don’t think you did anything wrong at all, and he’s not approaching it with a good attitude (it was a simple question he should have answered before asking you a nicer version of his own question) just trying to figure out what he might have been thinking? I actually think he’ll be much more helpful and responsive once you actually book. Hope this helps!
Post # 10
I think that while he may have been a little rude to put it that way, he’s probably feeling the teeniest bit insulted about the whole “trial run” with no contract thing, since he likely figures that looking at the photos of yourself is no different than looking at the photos of the people already in his portfolio – that is its purpose, after all.
I’m not saying anything bad about you, because I totally understand your feeling, I’m just trying to explain that things are usually done a certain way and people get kind of put off when they find themselves in suddenly unfamiliar territory. Your trial run was above and beyond for him, and I’m assuming that it went well and you told him you liked the photos he produced for you, right? If that’s the case, he’s probably just assumed that your approval of the engagement photos means he’s passed the trial and gotten the contract. If you liked his work, I’m sorry, but I don’t think that he’s wrong. Cut him some slack, I’m sure he’ll perk up once he’s sure you guys are for serious and not just jerking him around.
Post # 11
Couple of questions for you:
1. Is your photographer aware of the “trial” run? Does he know that you will be making decision based on how you like your photos before you book him?
Why is he demanding contract?? What exactly did you tell him?
2. Did you photographer tell you about his price for engagement session? What is included in $75.00? Why didn’t you ask about print price before hand and now in shock?
I found it incredibly rude for him to send you such short, unprofessional email, however, i don’t know the story behind it. Can you shed more light on the story?
Post # 12
If it were me, I’d write back “We’ll get the contract and deposit taken care of as soon as you answer my questions.”
But I can be a bitch that way!
Post # 13
I think thats very rude. Personally thats a big red flag for me.
Post # 15
I also think it’s a red flag. How long would it have taken to answer your question in the same email? An extra minute of his time? It may be “just business” to him, but do you want someone shooting your wedding who is all about “just business”?