Overwhelmed with Unspoken Expectations at New Job

posted 12 months ago in Career
Post # 2
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

emvee :  ok, take a breath. Take a nice long deep breath, and slowly let it out.

You are not stuck here. There is a reason why they interviewed and hired you so quickly, and it’s probably due to this work environment.

As a fellow gad sufferer, we are aware of EVERYTHING. We notice EVERY LITTLE THING. Sometimes it can be to our detriment. 

It sounds like your attention to detail is showing you some very valid warning signs that this is not the work environment for you.

I’m a financial analyst and busy times come during the job. So I get the pressure of doing longer hours and Saturdays and lately my manager and coworker make jokes about how long they stay and how they are the last to leave and such. I’ve been here for five years and have significant time off, I’ve never had back handed comments about leaving on time, and I’m thanked when I come in on a very rare Saturday during our busy season (though I do late hours a few days a month)

This does not sound like a healthy environment and your intuition is right on the money with this.

I would start looking for other job openings to be honest, I would not do well in an environment like this, and it sounds like you won’t either 

Post # 3
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Bumble bee

Do you have an employment contract, or offer of employment . At the very least  an outline of your duties? I always insist on these. 

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2017

emvee :  I was in an environment like this in my first job out of college. I’ll be honest, if I found myself at a job like this, I wouldn’t be bothering with telling them that I can’t be doing 80 hour weeks, I would just be laying low and looking for other jobs. From what you’ve said, and the attitude that the employer and the employees have, I don’t think that having a discussion is going to go over well. They are bragging about working 78 days in a row, Saturday’s and Sunday’s included. If you need a work life balance, this is not the environment that will work for you

That is just my experience with this kind of environment though.

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2016

emvee :  All the stuff you mentioned sounds pretty normal for the industry. You don’t go into accounting/finance if you are looking for a 9-5 job with low stress. Long hours come with the job. The good news is that a high salary also comes with the job. 

You can obviously start looking for another job, but I’m not sure if another work environment is going to be much different for an entry level accounting/financial analyst role. At least you are not working for a big 4 firm or an investment bank – as I’m sure you know you would be working 60-80 hour weeks from day one. 

Post # 8
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  • Wedding: October 2017

princessandthepear :  I’m in finance in health care, and while I’ve encountered jobs like that, I’ve been at mine for five years and this is not my environment. Not at my level anyway. Our hourly employees are capped and can’t do much overtime if any at all. The higher ups are the ones who work these kind of hours, and in my opinion, they deserve their salary because of how hard they bust their ass.

You can be in finance and not work in an environment like that, I’m there now

And no paid sick time? I’ve never encountered that before and I’ve been in the field for 11 years, with three different companies 

It could be a state thing too, or I could just be lucky. I knew the big four would not work for me, so I never went that route

Eta, I work a few 12 hour days every month and I’m going to be doing my second Saturday soon. I average one Saturday a year during our busy season, the longer hours on those few days during the month are expected to meet our deadlines. So I don’t consider myself to be in a 9-5 job, but I feel like I have a good work life balance

Post # 9
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Busy bee

When I relocated last year, I was in a job that had similar unspoken hours expectations. I was initially told that it would be a normal 9-5, but about two weeks in got confronted with, “We noticed that you’re arriving late and leaving early.” I was totally side swiped as I hadn’t been told to do anything otherwise. They then told me, “Well, we don’t have set hours.” Okay, so why is 9-5 unacceptable?! I felt like I had to get in before everyone and stay until at least 6 everyday even when they wouldn’t be in until 8:50 almost every day! After 3 months, I finally found another job that is a complete 180. I want set hours. I want to know IT’S OKAY to leave at X time. I don’t want to feel guilty for not seeing my job as my entire purpose in life. I want to show up, do what I’m asked then leave and not think about work again until the next time I’m there. 

This job isn’t for you. Now is the time to get out. If I had to guess, it seems like you have some room to be unemployed as you just graduated? If so, quit immediately and get back on the hunt. If not, stick it out until you find the right fit, but don’t delay looking. 

Post # 10
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emvee :  That sounds horrible. I would not want to stay at a job like that at all. I would keep trucking but look for other jobs. To be honest it seems that either there isn’t enough staff, or that the people that are saying later are either not good at managing their own workload, or happy to eek out the work and do extra hours for extra pay. 

 

I like to work hard and if need be will stay late but life is too short to work in a job where it is expected you always stay late. Sod that, you are young and don’t want to be stuck at work all day. People seem really rude and nosey too which is offputting and sounds like quite a toxic environment.

 

Get out as soon as you can! 

Post # 11
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Bumble bee

    I have worked in finance  for a very long time, but  I slowly moved into more contract and legal roles. I find the least pressure better rights protection ….in Government.  But, it can sometimes also be less secure.  

 

Agreed. I’d be looking on the sly for a better fit. 

Post # 12
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Bumble bee

Keep on looking and applying for other jobs, and quit as soon as you find something else. The reason you we probably hired so quickly, is because they probably couldn’t find anyone or people were hired and quickly left.

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

emvee :  Continue doing what you’re going and work the hours they told you when you were hired. If anyone says anything, you can mention the hours you were quoted. Start looking for a new job now, because this job will not be a fit long term for someone who wants a personal/work life balance with any kind of family/friend life.

But there’s no reason to panic. You don’t have to stay at this job and no one has asked you to work those longer hours yet. 

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee

emvee :  you lost me at your supervisor’s reaction to your engagement. I’d be looking for another job…this place does not seem to prioritize work/life balance, and the unspoken pressures that accompany other people staying late is too much…especially if you’ve heard people talking shit already. I know that long hours come with your field, but the unpaid sick days and offhanded remark about you getting married seems—off. What happens if you get pregnant?

Your job needs to realize that if they want younger people to enter their workforce, they need to look at what young people value in their employment. The expectation that work will be the center of everyone’s life ain’t gonna cut it.

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2017

emvee :  uh oh!!! SORRY bee!! I have 1 friend that works in finance and honestly… this is fairly normal not ALL firms have this but finance is long hours and high stress for the most part. My friend even had to CANCEL a trip to France due to being “asked” to work through a planned vacation… brutal. Look for a different gig on the sly but keep in mind that you could possibly run into a similar situation elsewhere

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