(Closed) Phentermine Diet Plan

posted 8 years ago in Wellness
Post # 3
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

I hope I dont come off as soap boxy or offensive….it is not my intent!  i am extremely anti diet drug….and most crash diets/crash detox for weight loss programs. Mostly because they’re a short fix, they may work, and you may lose the weight but as soon as you go off them, you fall back into your old habits and you gain it and usually more back.  It’s a viscous cycle. 

Most people know what not to do and what to do to be healthy….we just need help getting there.  Have you ever thought about working with a health or wellness coach? They can help you get to the bottom of everything and cheer you on through making healthier life choices. 

I should tell you that I am extremely biased because I am a holistic health coach and yoga instructor….and in my pervious career, I was a pharmaceutical attorney. I know way too much about big pharma and it scares the daylights out of me.  I haven’t actually filled a prescription in over 10 years. 

That being said, every person is different. And my advice to you is to do lots of research and understand all of your options….and choose what is best for you

Good luck and Be well!!

Terra

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

I would be very wary about starting a prescription diet pill. Appetite supressants have a history of containing stimulants, which can be addicting and give you the jitters! This drugs is a Schedule IV medication, meaning it is strictly controlled and can only be obtained through a prescription. Specifically, this drug works by telling your brain to release norepinephrine, which causes a reduction in hunger. Plus, you can only go on it for a maximum of 12 weeks. It is usually seen as a “last resort” drug for people who have tried everything to lose weight, and nothing has worked.

I like Terra’s suggestion about seeing a health or wellness coach. Have you tried to lose weight in the past with just diet and exercise, but felt like you got lost or didn’t have support? They would probably do a fantastic job at helping you achieve your goals and make permanent changes to your lifestyle.

Good luck with your weight loss journey!

Post # 5
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

I also don’t wish to be preach-y but I would definitely try something else before going on a diet pill.  They usually tend to just mess up your metabolism, and diet and exercise is much healthier.  Weight Watchers is the best if you want to go on a program of sorts.

Post # 6
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2009

If you aren’t actively trying to diet and exercise, are you sure your doctor will just give you the Rx? I know my dad tried to get a Rx diet pill once and they said “no dice”. Definitely try to go with just diet and exercise and see what happens. Use it as a least resort. Plus, if you just rely on those pills, you won’t really be helping yourself in the long run. Being healthy is a lifestyle change–if you change your diet and exercise, you’re setting yourself up for longer term success. But i’m glad you want to get your weight down! There are lots of better approaches tho

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

Phentermine is a little bit like speed. Be careful.

Post # 8
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Sugar bee

Im going to go against most people here and say its not bad, at least its not for me.  My parents own a weight loss clinic so I have taken diet pills before(doctor prescribed) and actually just started taking them again this week.  Make sure your doctor is reputable – they should be taking a blood sample from you when you see him to make sure you get the right medication and dosage.  There are several pills that are very similar to phentermine that you might get one of instead. 

To be honest, I just cant diet.  I dont have the willpower to eat better foods that I know I should and to exercise.  I start to do it then my motivation just goes away.  It was very hard to try and eat better and not see any improvement.  My problem is that I also eat when I am bored.  The pills really helped me in that it made me not hungry all the time and when I did get hungry not too much sounded good to eat.  To me, it was really about portion control and actually only eating when I was hungry, not just to eat.

I do agree you should diet and exercise as well and I am trying to again as well.  Im definitely not saying you should just turn to pills as a first resort.  Either way, just be careful and cautious and make sure if you show any signs of the pill not going well to talk to your doctor.

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

First of all, it does not increase your metabolism.  This pill works with the seratonin in your brain to make you not hungry.  If you eat as much as you normally do, there will be no results. 

I have no first hand experience with this drug, but I have friends who took this during business school as a ritalin type subsititute to help them study.  It’s very similar to speed as one lady mentioned above since it is virtually the same structure as amphetamine.  Make sure you drink a lot of water since this can dehydrate you.  Also, you may have a lot of problems sleeping.

If you are successful where you are able to really reduce your calorie intake, make sure that you are still getting protein and not staying sedentary.  When you drastically reduce your calorie intake, you SLOW DOWN YOUR METABOLISM.  Your body goes into starvation mode and it takes far less calories to just maintain your weight.  This means that when you go off phentermine, you will not only gain back your weight, but may even gain more than where you started from since you metabolism slowed down so much.

To prevent this, while reducing your calories, don’t reduce them too much and make sure that the food you do eat is nutritious.  Also don’t reduce them to where you are eating less than 1,200 calories a day.  For maximum weight loss, 1,200 calories (without exercise) is the ideal calorie intake.  If you do work out, figure out how many calories you would burn (ie 300 calories from 30 min on the elliptical trainer) and add that to the 1,200 amount, thus resulting in 1,500 calories that you should eat for the day.  This keeps your metabolism from slowing down while you maximize your weight and fat loss.

I hope this helps.  I was a varsity athlete at a Division I college in two sports, so I’m really familiar with nutrition, weight loss, and also what some of these drugs can do.

 

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

I’m going to copy info I found on the mayoclinic website:

<h2>Is phentermine a good option for weight loss?</h2>

<h2>Answer</h2>

<h5 style=”text-align: left;”>from Donald Hensrud, M.D.</h5>

Phentermine (Adipex-P) is an amphetamine-like prescription medication used to suppress appetite. It can help weight loss by decreasing your hunger or making you feel full longer. Phentermine may be recommended if you’re significantly overweight — not if you want to lose just a few pounds. Phentermine is one of the most commonly prescribed weight-loss medications, but it does have some potentially serious drawbacks.

Because the clinical trials of phentermine were short and indicated a slight potential for abuse, phentermine was approved by the Food and Drug Administration in 1959 only for short-term obesity treatment — about 12 weeks or less. Phentermine may be a way to kick-start your weight loss. But once you stop taking phentermine, you’re likely to regain the weight you lost. That’s why phentermine should be used as part of an overall weight-loss plan that includes healthy eating and regular exercise — you’re more likely to maintain your weight loss over time if you don’t rely solely on medications.

Phentermine side effects may include:

  • Increased blood pressure
  • Blurred vision
  • Dizziness
  • Dry mouth
  • Sleeplessness
  • Nervousness
  • Constipation

Don’t take phentermine if you have certain medical conditions, including heart disease, high blood pressure, an overactive thyroid gland or glaucoma. Also don’t take phentermine while taking other weight-loss medications.

In the past, phentermine was combined with fenfluramine — a combination known as fen-phen — for obesity treatment. But fenfluramine was removed from the market in the late 1990s because it was linked to serious heart and lung disorders.

I personally don’t think it sounds like a good idea. There are a lot of options out there to help with weight managment and health. Ultimately I would do a bit of personal research before going to the doctor and taking the pill.

Post # 11
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Newbee
  • Wedding: January 2010

Lots of interesting information on here.

IF I were you, I would do as much research as I could on phentermine…. I would be even be overly cautions. Remember the whole fen-phen drug recall in the 90’s by the FDA which had serious cardiac side effects such as valve damage and pulmonary hypertension? This frightens me… but that is just me. Just make sure that you’re making the most informed decision that you can and that you listen to your body while not putting yourself at risk for the rest of your life solely because of a short-term goal.

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: December 1969

RenoRx is completely correct! Both drugs involved in Fen-Phen (Phentermine and Phenphluramine (sp?) have been linked to life-threatening heart problems that are not discovered until it’s too late. Even short-term usage (i.e. a few months) has been associated with valve damange and pulmonary hypertension (which sounds like it’s a lung problem, but is really a heart problem).

Not to mention that in the majority of people who took (and take) these drugs (either together when Fen-Phen was on the market or seperately) they did not really loose significant amounts of weight for the long term. So they took a drug, messed up their heart and didn’t even achieve their desired results.

There have been studies going back since the 70’s about the dangers of the drugs. They have the same effect on the body as taking meth would. Not a good thing. I would suggest that you do A LOT of research on the drug before you take it.

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

While Fen-Phen was related to heart problems and the Fen portion was recalled and is no longer made and distributed, it has been proven that Phentermine, when used under a doctor’s care is safe.  Since this drug is still FDA approved, I wouldn’t go overboard as to say that its dangerous.  The combination of the two was dangerous, but it isn’t dangerous alone.  If it was, it would have been recalled when the Fen portion was. 

Post # 14
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

True, but FDA approval doesn’t necessarily make a medication safe…evidence being the drugs that have been approved and later were recalled or there were black box warnings added.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2010

True, but since this drug was involved in a cocktail (Phen-Fen) that resulted in serious damage to patients, wouldn’t you think that it was extensively tested before the Fen portion was removed from production?  I can’t imagine that the FDA would just ignore the Phen portion.  I would think that both were extensively tested to see if either one separately or the combination of both was the cause of the problems.

The FDA approved phentermine in 1959.  That means it has been available via prescription for 60 years.  I’m pretty sure that since this prescription only medication is safe when prescribed by a doctor.

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