Post # 17
@catalyst: That is probably not a good idea, unless the OP goes with a larger size album.
If you can trim the extra pics, then go with 40 pages, but if you love it, it sounds like the photographer did their job. I don’t think they are trying to “upsell” you, they are not making much out of the 200 dollar adder they are charging you, this is VERY reasonable. If they were trying to upsell, they would of made it 15+ extra pages to try and WOW you into buying more. I think they tried to fit everything in 40, but just couldn’t do it in a way they were happy with. Did you select the pictures? You should have an average of around 2 to 2.5 images per page.
As for the prints, it sounds like this photographer is still evolving into the digital age from older business models of selling prints. It is true that the release probabably states that you only you can obtain prints for your personal use, but as true as it is, it’s kind of silly because it can’t be policed. Photographers should just charge more for the CD to make up for lost print sales, and then give the user more flexibility on getting their own prints made. There are advantages of getting prints through the photogapher though for anything larger than an 8×10,
Are your photographers print rates reasonable?
Post # 18
@USER876: Yeah I am just going to pay the extra $200, because I really can’t decide what to take out. There are some pages in the album that literally just have one picture on the panoramic (2 page) spread though. There’s another girl I think she tried to “upsell” that I know because she did add about 15 pages to her album. This girl did choose a smaller package than I did though. We did order about $400 worth of prints, which I think is a good amount of $$ seeing as each print was $8 each for a 4×6 or 5×7 or $20 for an 8×10. So I wouldn’t say they are that reasonable. Anything larger than an 8×10 was REALLY expensive. I think an 11×17 was $75?
I know our photographer has been doing digital cd’s for people for at least 3 years now (as my friend used her previously), but I wonder if the “disclaimers” on her contract are just general disclaimers that haven’t been updated for years, hence the phrase saying only the photographer is allowed to reprint pictures.
I know this other girl who used the same photog had some issues as well, so at least I can say its not just me being a crazy bride haha.
Post # 19
@mkewed2010: So you don’t have ANY reproduction rights? Did he give you high resolution unwatermarked images? If so, I can’t figure out why he wouldn’t let you reproduce them.
As I said there are some advantages of ordering prints through your photographer. I don’t even offer 4×6 or 5×7’s anymore. First, images those sizes tend to get lost in albums or in desk drawers, they offer the least amount of “satisfaction” and use for the client, so it’s hard for me to sell value. A 20×30 wall portrait that will be enjoyed daily for yrs to come is another story. The smaller prints IMO are more for proofing purposes, so I either offer proofs of the entire set for a set fee, or nothing at all. It’s more economical for the client to obtain prints themselves in that size. For larger prints, you really start to see the difference in ink and paper quality that a pro lab offers, not to mention the archival benefits. Also, retouching is very noticable for larger prints, and the photographer insures that the image is perfect before it goes to the printer. Even if you can get it at a better price, it can be a costly expense if it comes back with something not to your liking and you have to get it reprinted on your dime. Also, the photographer probably supplies larger prints custom mounted on matte board.
20 dollars for an 8×10 is def on the lower end of average IMO. I would say that 75 for a 11×14 is about average. It’s not a bad price, but then again it depends on what your photographer charged till this point……could be front end or back end loaded. Also, they should be giving you discounts if you order multiple prints of the same exact images and size.
Post # 20
@USER876: The photog said that my Darling Husband and I could reprint from the cd (no watermarks etc), but the cd was only for our use, not to give prints to anyone else. If other people wanted prints from the cd, it would be an extra $200 for additional print rights. We did not get any discounts for ordering multiple of any prints (my mom ordered 7 or so of a few prints). Any large custom print you order, must be accompanied by a print as well. i.e. if you order a 16×20 canvas, you must also order print of a certain size. So on top of the canvas costing hundreds of dollars, you must spend another $75+ on a print as well. My photographer does offer pictures on matte board and those start at $100 for an 8×10.
My pkg included a proof book, but it was not available when I went to meet with the photog after the wedding, and I won’t get it until I pick up my album. Which I don’t really get because what good is a proofbook after the print ordering period is over?
Oh also to answer a previous question, I was not the one to pick any of the pictures that went into my album. My photog picked them all and designed the pics. I didn’t pick any of them but was able to tell her after I got the proof whether or not all the pictures I wanted were in there.
Post # 21
It sounds like you are being milked for anything this guy can get out of you. I had a really good priced package, got great pics, and got a CD with full rights within a few weeks. No upsells or bs reasons to make me shell out more $$$