(Closed) Photog rant

posted 7 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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5977 posts
Bee Keeper

@Frosted:  I’m sorry the price wasn’t what you expected, but FWIW, my photographer was almost $6,000 when I got married 5 years ago…and he was worth it. While I know that’s not what you’re looking for, perhaps you can see if you can find someone who would do it cheaper? 

Post # 3
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3176 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

I’d go with a professional but that’s me. My cousin’s wife tried to do something similar with us. I wanted some winter e-pics and got quotes for around 100-200 in my area. Then I heard she was trying to get a business started and she quoted me 450.00 or something like that. No thanks. I just told her that was more than I was planning to spend and I found a professional with great reviews who was less than half that.

Post # 5
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2053 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@Frosted:  I’m sorry, I’m confused by the way you wrote your post. First you say your photographer friend is a start up artist and has done 2 weddings, then later you say “photog friends who said they would do it no problem for less than cost but have never done a wedding.” Are you talking about the same person/people?

I think you should go with whomever will deliver quality photos to you in a reasonable amount of time for a reasonable cost. With friends, sometimes they take advantage of the friendship and it overrides the business relationship, so they drag you around on cost or make you wait 2 years for you to get your photos. With friends in business you have to be so careful as things get sticky fast. You go on each others’ word rather than having a contract, and then it becomes, “well, I didn’t want to compromise the friendship so I trusted their word” and “well you SAID you would do this for me, but now I understand the cost is really ____.” Messy. Go with an affordable pro is my advice.

P.S. My photography cost $3000. not including albums in Northern California, just north of San Francisco, to give you a sense of price/scale vs. location. We had two photographers, a husband and wife team, who are equally and extremely skilled in photography. We communicated to them the types of photos we liked best, the style the tone and details. You should be able to talk about these things, and a good wedding photographer should be able to deliver a decent sense of what you want. They gave us a very clear contract, were personable, and we own all the photos.

Post # 6
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4675 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

@Frosted:  eck! I don’t think I would ever that much for someone just starting out!

My photog is on her second year of shooting weddings and doing an amazing job so far, so I am not bais on using someone who has been in the field for years and years! I would keep looking and tell your friend thanks for the offer but…  

Post # 7
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5977 posts
Bee Keeper

@Frosted:  It all depends on where you’re located in the country. I’m near Philly, and I felt like my photographer was a great deal. To each their own. You just asked where photographers charge $6,000…

Hope you find luck finding someone who will do the job for lots less!

Post # 9
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637 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

This advice is coming from somone who’s own family has done this to her on serveral occassions. Don’t roll over and be the “nice person”. Go with the photographer that YOU want, that will give you the types of photos that you want, at the price you can afford. Trust me, you will harbor resentment over this and it will affect your friendship with this person whether overtly or not. Tell your friend that you appreciate his offer, but that $2000 is more than you budgeted/anticpated for this. I would not offend them by saying that XYZ Photog does it for $X amount. Just let him know that you budgeted $500, or whatever and that even though you understand that he can’t do it at that cost, you’ll enjoy his company celebrating your wedding as a guest (if he’s still invited as just a guest). At that point, if he decides that he can do it for your budget, and you still want him to do it, go for it – if not, then move on to another photographer.

Post # 10
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3041 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

@Frosted:  Your friend probably looked around at other professional’s websites & got the price from there. $6k is not what a beginning wedding photog should charge! $2k is pro-priced around here at least (may be different in your area). Whoever you go with, make sure you get a contract with pricing & all details included! You do not want to be “surprised” by anything (like you were with the $2k price). I would talk with your other 2 friends to clarify things & get a signed contract if you want to go with them. Maybe have an engagement session with them first. Newbies are a risk… the photos may be beautiful & great, or they may be horrible & a lot of missed shots. You don’t get a do-over wedding photo shoot. I’ve heard of lost friendships over bad wedding photos.

@MrsPinkPeony:  $450 isn’t bad for a beginning photog… did you mean $4500?

Post # 10
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1252 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

I think $2K is a very reasonable price for a photographer WITH EXPERIENCE.  However, if he’s only done 2 weddings, it’s too high for a “friend” rate – and $6K is way off base.  I’d dump him and pick an actual experienced wedding photographer, with good reviews and a portfolio, and pay up the $2K for it.  As an artist yourself, you’ll probably regret not having great photos, so you should spend the money to get someone who is tried and true.

ETA – if that $2K includes an album then ask for the price without it, flushmount albums are going to add close to $1K.

Post # 11
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1314 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

I don’t know the individual photographer’s situation.  But the term “cost” when it comes to wedding photography can be quantified differently.  Sure, you can say that arriving to, and shooting a local wedding has very low cost involved.  Just a little gas in the car, and voila, you’ve arrived and are ready to work.  Personally the low cost factor goes out the door as soon as I have wheeled in my camera case that has over 20K worth of gear that has to be maintained over the year.  Then you’ve got my business insurance policy I need to even be allowed to shoot in the venue, and all of the marketing dollars I may have spent to be spotted by a bride in the first place.  It might not apply in your case since you knew your friend already, but you can see where I am going with this.  If you are in a major metropolitan area, and you actually want to squeak out a MODEST living as a wedding photographer, you have to charge at least $2000 per wedding, if not more to make a profit.  So I hate to burst your bubble, but professionals do not charge $2000 or less. Most have to start at $2500-3000, and shoot 20-30 weddings a year, and live very smart with their money to even survive.  I know this, because this is my life.  I wouldn’t trade it for anything, but I really do not like these posts that seem to imply that wedding photographers are out their price gouging everyone and pulling the wool over people’s eyes. Being a legit small business is insanely difficult, and most of us do not survive more than a couple of years.

That being said, I fully understand that not everyone has more than 2K to put towards awesome photography.  I got married on a tight budget myself, and I completely understand.  But I will tell you this – it’s my one and only regret about my wedding.  If I could go back I would have figured out a way to make good photography happen.  

My opinion is that you should find an experienced photographer whose work that you like.  You don’t get do-overs in wedding photography!

Post # 12
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3041 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

@continuumphotography:  She wasn’t complaining about the price because her friend is a pro… its because this friend is very new to wedding photography & saying he normally charges $6k! Even with her “friend discount” $2k is pretty high for a newbie (I’m assuming this is just wedding coverage & photo cd). Now if he was a professional, than I’d have an entirely different opinion. Would you charge $6k on your 2nd or 3rd wedding? He claims that’s his normal price! Also, pros around here charge around $2k… all depends on your location/cost of living.

Post # 13
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1314 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@canthugallcats:  which is why I said in the beginning of my response that I don’t know the individual photographers situation.  It’s not really what I was commenting about.

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