(Closed) Photographer issues- You'd never guess what she did!- longandcrazy!

posted 6 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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529 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

Yes, she can do that- she has the rights to the images since she is the photographer.

Post # 5
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529 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

Even without written permission (contract), she can do as she sees fit with the images. It can be implied that there was verbal agreement about being photographed because you did pose for the photos. I think the permission for advertisements thing has to deal with people who don’t know they’re being photographed in the first place. 

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

I don’t understand the problem.  She wants money or you don’t get photos.  You don’t have money and don’t even like the photos.  Answer?  Don’t pay her and ask another friend to help take your photos for free and use those instead.

Post # 7
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1849 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

She sounds like a real nightmare. Sorry this happened, OP. Don’t pay her if you only really like a few photos and you only need 2. I would never reward that kind of behavior. Like you said, it would have been a completely different story if she had brought up compensation first. But even if she had, it hardly sound like she conducted herself professionally. 

Post # 9
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4327 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: January 1992

Good reason to illustrate why agreements are signed before services are rendered.

Post # 10
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622 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@alishaloo:  Here’s one sentence that will sum up all of your issues here: you didn’t hire a professional but you expected professional behavior and professional business ethics/structure and you expected it for free. Let’s dive in:

– She should have set expectations but again, she’s not a professional. She’s not running a business. It’s obvious that HER expectation was that you would not be asking her to do all of this work for free. It’s a communication issue complicated by the fact that when she did ask you if you could pay anything your Fiance said “maybe a little”. If that was never the case it probably would have been best to say so.

– Her goofing around on the shoot and not listening to you and posing you oddly – again, you didn’t hire a professional. You hired a family member with a camera. It sounds like your expectations were too high.

– Asking you for money – you told her you could pay a little. So she’s asked for a little and let you know going forward what bridals would cost you. She’s offering two images for free but it sounds like you want everything for free and it doesn’t sound like she’s going to budge, especially now that she’s put so much time into all of it.

– Yes she does own the copyright to the images by default. If you didn’t sign anything she does not have a model release so she theoretically doesn’t have permission to use them publicly. However, if you have correspondence back and forth where she can prove you were asking for her to post them on facebook, were ok with them being on her blog, etc, in court you wouldn’t really have a case, especially since you went into the agreement knowing she was trying to build a portfolio and would be using these images to do so.

– I’m sorry but there’s no way you had a bunch of other people lined up who would shoot for two hours, edit for who knows how many hours, and do it for less than $20-$50. Paying her such a small amount of money to keep the peace and thank her for her efforts would have been the right thing to do in my opinion but you’re past that now.

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

You should tell her you can pay if she shows you a “joe” that’s willing to pay her the money she claims her work is worth. If she’s going to treat it like a business transaction, she has to prove her “work” is marketable. 

Post # 15
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: October 2010

@Bazingau:  +1

 

OP, you can be mad all you want, but what are you going to do, in the end? Haul her off to court? Sue her? That will be a waste of your time and probably a waste of more money. You’re right in that what she did isn’t how I’d do business and it’s not how I’d deal with family, but at this point, cut your losses. You didn’t like most of the photos and you don’t have the money, so ask your nearest and dearest to take extra shots of the wedding for you–guests oftentimes have some of the best pictures anyway.

 

 

Post # 16
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214 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

Wow. I would have someone else take the pics and tell his sister for F herself. Unbelievable and crazy.

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