Post # 1
So, Fiance and I have a small budget and photography isn’t really on the top of our priority list (as in, we want to have it, but we aren’t super concerned with everything looking “Pinterest-ready”), so we have decided to go with a fantastic photog who is just starting to break into the wedding industry. [I’ve posted about this before, so long story short, she’s been a photographer for 10+ years and we love her work, but has focused on family portraits, baby/toddler pics, etc. and not weddings]. She’s got a few weddings booked ahead of ours, but those will be the first weddings she shoots, so one thing we discussed was that we’re basically getting a fantastic price for her service because, in exchange, she’ll be able to use our photos to boost her own business/build her portfolio. In theory, we were totally on board, but Fiance and I had a discussion last night and we’re not 100% sure we’re all on the same page….
We’re doing our engagment shoot tomorrow. We’re bringing our deposit with us and signing our contract there. The contract states that if we aren’t satisfied with the photos/experience during this shoot, she’ll refund all but $50 of our deposit to us (we’ve got a short amount of time to decide). We called to clarify and ask when we’d actually see the engagment photos (as in, if we have to decide within a couple weeks, we WILL actually have pics to see by then, right?) and she said that she will post “Facebook previews” within a few days. Now, we know that she uses Facebook as her main way of advertising and we used the photos on her facebook page to gauge how we felt about her skills as a photographer (the pics are all awesome, by the way), but we’re a little concerned about pics of us being posted to FB before we’ve even seen them.
Our two biggest concerns are: A.) we don’t want the pic that is going in our STD (or any pic that has our “Save the Date” sign) on FB because we want the people who are invited to see that particular picture for the first time when they get it in the mail and because we don’t want people who AREN’T invited to see our STD (with date and location) plastered all over their news feed. And B.) Fiance really wants to be able to post any pictures of us we choose to put online ourselves rather than having the photos be posted on her site first.
Personally, A is a much bigger deal to me than B, but in the end, I think both issues need to be addressed. I suggested to Fiance that we simply request that none of the STD picture (with the sign) go up online at all and that she not tag us in any of the pictures (we’ll tag ourselves once we’re ready), but he doesn’t think this is enough. He wants to ask that she absolutely not put anything on FB until we’ve given her the OK and that she instead e-mail the pics and we put them up and tag her/her business. So, what do you guys think? What would you do AND what exactly would you say to the photographer to get your request across? The last thing I want is to be some wierd, demanding couple, especially after we’ve already agreed to our wedding pics helping her build up her portfolio?
Post # 2
amanda.417: I would not be okay with her posting any pictures to her website, blog, FB anywhere without me having seen all of them first. Our photographer called us when she was done editing everything and we went to her studio and looked at all of them. We made decisions on what we wanted for our STD and other items, then the next day, she posted the photos. I agree that she should not post any that you don’t want her to – especially the STD ones. She should be understanding of all of this.
Post # 3
amanda.417: Just ask her not to tag you– because of your concern A. I highly doubt all of your friends are fans of hers on FB.
Post # 4
Our photographer posted previews on Facebook before we’d seen them. I think that’s somewhat common.
I would just ask that she not post any of your STD ones when she does it.
Post # 5
amanda.417: I think you’re totally valid asking her not to post the STD pictures (and if she has common sense she probably wouldn’t anyways…).
Ours went up on facebook & her blog before we saw them, same was true for the wedding pictures – that’s how we got our sneak peek. It seems to be pretty standard these days.
You can ask her – it never hurts to ask, I would just make sure to be poilite about it 😀
Post # 6
It’s very common for photographers to post to facebook. It’s free advertising! That said, if you don’t want your pictures on facebook, just let her know that. You might want to make sure it wasn’t in the contract you sign, because sometimes it is. The photos she takes are considered her artistic property to do with as she wants. However, she should comply with what you want if she wants your business. If you don’t mind the pictures on facebook later on, like after save the dates, then tell her that. She would probably be just fine waiting as long as she will get her free advertising at some point.
Post # 7
While it is common for photographers to put the pictures up on Facebook and a few weeks ago I would have said that it wasn’t a big deal, my photographer posted a sneak peek of us. The photos were so far away you couldn’t tell it was us and the one close up was not flattering. I would speak to your photographer ahead of time to see if you can come to some sort of agreement about your concerns and if they are willing to let you see the facebook photos before posting them.
Post # 8
Thank you all for your replies! I didn’t realize how common it was for previews to be put online. Apparently, I’m stressing over nothing…I’ll just ask her not to put any STD up (at least for now, maybe after the wedding if she wants to use it for advertising?) and let it be.
aoppenhuizen: I kinda wish the contract addressed things like this, but since she’s new the industry, I don’t think she’s ever had a contract before. We specifically requested one and told her exactly what things we wanted in it and she went home and typed it up in word. It’s honestly more of a receipt than a contract (basically, it just states that on the day of the engagement pics we’re making deposit of $X to reserve out date, with the remaining balance of $X due by March. She’ll refund all but $50 of the deposit if we decide not to use her services within 2 weeks of the engagment shoot, otherwise she agrees to shoot 8 hours of photography and to provide the images on a disc). It’s short and sweet, but we figured it was just enough to protect us in a worst-case scenario.
Post # 9
If you tell a photographer that you’re not comfortable with them posting pics before you’ve seen them, most will respect those wishes. They would be really silly not to, since you’re their client. But, they still have the copyright and can use the photos in any way they see fit. All you can do is explain what you want and hope they respect that. If you don’t like their response, you should find a different photographer.
Our photographer did this for our engagement and wedding preview (haven’t gotten the wedding photos back yet), and it was not a big deal. She did give us a heads up in advance that she’d post preview photos on FB before she sent us the full album and we were fine with that.
Post # 10
amanda.417: What does it say in your contract? One of the biggest reasons my husband and I have never used a photographer that isn’t a family member is they usually post to facebook, and we would like to be the ones who determine what’s get posted and what doesn’t. But I would talk to her. I’m sure she’ll be reasonable about it. You could sya you’d like to see which photos she’s going to put in her portfolio before putting them up.
Post # 11
amanda.417: All of our photos were posted to facebook first, for both my wedding and family photography. This seems to be standard practice and was written into each of our contracts.
Post # 12
Ask the photographer to only post them after the wedding.
Our photographer had a picture of us in his website, but it was only one picture and we both loved it 🙂 so that was fine
Post # 13
amanda.417: I would just ask her not to tag you in the photos, and also turn on tag review in both your settings so nothing tagged shows up in anyones news feed/page until you approve it. <- Really a great settings feature if you don’t already have it on…
Unless your future guests are also friends with the photog, there is no way they will ever see the pics unless you are tagged. If you like the pics, then just accept the tags (or tag yourself) and share her gallery link on your page…
If you are 100% against the entire idea just tell her that and she will more than likely be a little bummed, but fully understand as quite a few couples do feel like you two do!
Post # 14
I just wanted to add that my photographer also posted public pictures with running them by me first. Just to chime in that it’s the norm. Your photographer has a business to run too.
However, I think a photographer would be understanding of not making your wedding date public knowledge. I think sending an email asking that signs with the wedding date not be posted anywhere is a reasonable request. We didn’t have a sign, so that wasn’t a concern. But it seems very reasonable.
Asking not to be tagged is also very reasonable, and makes for less work for the photographer. So that should be easy to accomodate as well.
Post # 15
amanda.417: If this photographer is breaking into weddings, and giving you a good deal because she needs the images for her portfolio, then you either need to be ok with them going on FB (and her website, blog, advertising, etc) without getting to ok them, or find a new photographer.
As a wedding photographer myself, there have been times when I’ve needed/wanted certain images or a location for my portfolio. When that happens, and I’m giving some sort of a “deal”, it’s with the stipulation that it’s my choice. I hate to use the phrase “my clients get no say” but for lack of a better way of wording it – that’s sort of the case. I would never put a bad or unflattering photo of my clients online – so it’s actually sort of offensive to think that a client would want to proof what I put online of them. I totally understand and respect if you want to choose what goes online, or if you don’t want them online at all. My point is, if that’s the case then you need to find an established photographer who doesn’t need your images.