Please help me choose: 1.8ct DVVS1 vs 2ct GVVS2

posted 2 years ago in Engagement
  • poll: 1.8ct D vs 2ct G
    1.8ct D : (21 votes)
    38 %
    2ct G : (34 votes)
    62 %
  • Post # 16
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    1253 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: August 2018

    I looked at diamonds in person at the suggestion of the consultant who was helping me, and was shocked at how color sensitive I was.  I could tell a D from an F and anything below an F looked dirty. 

    Take a look at diamonds first before you go with the G.  A little worried about the D having floursence, but I landed on D for the color.  But both diamonds are a no go if their cut is anything less than super ideal. 

    Enjoy! 

    Post # 17
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    9177 posts
    Buzzing Beekeeper

    MrsHarryDresden :  haha thanks girl! But I still dream about your 5-stone + plain band set. Beyond gorgeous and classy. 😍 Me wanty.

    Post # 18
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    747 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2013

     

    TheGridMonster :  that video is amazing! Your stone is gorgeous, I love it’s depth and the colors that sparkle inside. I’m currently researching for my upgrade stone. I see you wrote yours is an I , which to me is super pretty. Do you know if your ring has flouresence ? I’m trying to educate myself and am not against faint flouresence if the stone sparkles and it helps save a little.  I’m pretty sure I’ll be going with and I colored stone when the time comes… hopefully in the 1.5 size. 

    Post # 19
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    692 posts
    Busy bee

    johnwick :  I don’t recommend going for the D because of the fluorescence. A presence of fluorescence (even just a bit) can negatively impact a high colored diamond. The only time a fluorescence aid in the look of the diamond is of the diamond is lower in color! So in your situation, it will only negatively impact the color and there’s no point buying a D at that point. If it’s a D with no fluorescence, that’s a completely different story. I think you should go for the G. You and virtually everyone else will not be able to tell (unless compared side by side of course). Good luck!

    Post # 20
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    383 posts
    Helper bee

    Quality over quantity. I have a 1.9 center and it really doesn’t even look significantly different from diamonds a little over 2 from what I’ve seen. So why not just have the better quality rock?

    Post # 21
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    367 posts
    Helper bee

    Im not color sensitive at all. I personally have to look at them. Ive seen vvs1 where the flaw is in a bad spot so you see it. I always look at the GIA “map” and how the stone is cut. I learned a few months ago when I asked this question its hard to tell based just on the specs! I personally have to see them, a video or pic. I thought a J would be too yellow for me but I really don’t see it. I think you have to see it in person, I don’t see color in a J so I know I wouldn’t see it in a G. I would go for bigger, I am not color sensitive but for me I would want the bigger one, because that I notice. Some women say they cant see the size difference, some don’t see color difference. I would notice the size difference, so I would want the bigger one. Its totally your personal preference.

     

    Post # 22
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    2479 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 2016

    diamondbeez :  You should take a look at what the good folks on Pricescope are saying about colorless diamonds and fluorescence….they know their stuff. 

    While it’s true that it can make them appear cloudy or hazy, it’s only in a small number of diamonds and should be taken on a case by case basis.  In most instances, fluorescence in D-F diamonds add an extra icy hint to an already icy white stone.  Put a non-fluor D beside one with strong blue fluor and the non-fluor will actually start to look slightly yellow…perhaps because your eyes are de-sensitized to the blue fluor so when you look at the non-fluor diamond, your eyes subtract some blue, making it appear slightly yellow tinted.

    Heck…my D color diamond does not have any fluorescence but I wish it did LOL

    Post # 23
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    692 posts
    Busy bee

    Souzie :  I read on many places that fluorescence can only be detrimental or has little to no effect in H color and above. But when going below H color, it does help the stone appear whiter. And I’ve done a lot of research too on this before purchasing my stone. It’s actually deemed more desirable to get a colorless diamond with no fluorescence. Why take the risk of getting an oily looking diamond when you can eliminate the risk all together with a beautiful and larger G stone? 

    Post # 24
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    3607 posts
    Sugar bee

    johnwick :  My uncle is a GIA gemologist and he gave me some good pointers when choosing a diamond. First, he said its always a smarter buy to go just under certain carat weights. Like choosing 1.4 instead of 1.5 or 0.9 instead of 1.0, as there is generally a big price gap but an insiginficant difference in size. He also said that a diamond can be beautiful and eye clean up to SI1, and SI2 is where you really have to be very careful. So following that advice, I’d go for the 1.84. You can see that the size measurements are extremely similar and 3000 is a huge savings you could put towards your wedding, a band, a house, furniture, etc. If you’re concerned about wanting to say “my ring is 2 carats” to people, I don’t think this should be the most important factor. I also personally prefer no flourescence, but I think faint would be pretty. Flourescence seems to have become a personal choice and doesn’t really detract or add…its all about whether you like it.

    Post # 25
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2010

    I wish I could help more, but truly I would do either one. They are both very nice stones and neither will disappoint. If the cut performance is the same on both and your heart really wants a 2 carat I would go for the 2 carat because shrinkage is a real thing for a lot of bees especially if your heart was set on a 2 carat all along. But if the smaller one faces up nicely and looks every bit its size, it will look just as perfect. but I will add this, my mom has a VS1 Gia Excellent cut J color and it is so incredibly stunning.  I don’t mind a little color at all, I  feel a little color adds an extra layer of beauty in a lot of diamonds, the fire can be incredible. But like you said will it be a situation of once you see it, will you never be able to unsee it?  I feel like its really noticeable at the I-J and even then if its super well cut it can look just as beautiful as a colorless stone. Ask the jeweler, if they’re a gemologist, his/her professional opinion as to which stone is the all around “better” stone, or let your Fiance choose it. That way you can know you have a beautiful diamond that was picked with love. Truly though either one will be so beautiful. Yogabride said it best pick the stone that speaks to you. 

    Post # 26
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    2479 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 2016

    diamondbeez :  Yep…that was my point.  That it should be approached on a case by case basis and as GIA states…some colorless diamonds with blue fluor may appear hazy or oily but only if the fluor is very strong.  The diamond that OP is looking at has faint fluorescence, which would be nothing more than an “identifying characteristic”.

    Years ago, it was the other way around when high color diamonds with blue fluorescence actually cost more and were marketed as blue white diamonds.  It was only when people started selling low color diamonds as “blue white diamonds” that the term was outlawed.

    I for one, don’t think fluor in D color diamonds is always a bad thing.  Take for instance…Brian Gavin’s Blue line, which is geared towards diamonds with fluorescence.  All his diamonds are meticulously inspected to ensure that fluor has no negative effect on performance including, colorless diamonds.

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