Please help me guess

posted 2 days ago in Rings
Post # 2
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: Malibou Lake Mountain Club

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@typicalanna:  for sure they said center? not TCW? 

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee

That does not look like a 1.1 carat. The specs are not great either. I would suggest shopping on Ruby Lane. They have a lot of vintage diamond rings and the sellers are good. I have never had a problem purchasing there. I am also pretty sure you can do returns, although I’ve never had to.

Post # 7
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2020

It’s SUPER deep based on that GIA so it’s possible. If the price was amazing AND I had videos and CLEAR pics of the facet pattern I might go for it, but that pic is terrible, it’s blurry and either the diamond is very dirty or it’s cloudy. For an old cuts its all about the video, you have to see if with your eyes. 

Post # 8
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Bumble bee

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@typicalanna:  Can you ask the seller to post a picture near a ruler? That should give you an idea. Either way, you should pay with PayPal so you have payment protection. Also, the girdle is quite thin – I’d be worried about chipping.

Post # 9
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Bumble Beekeeper

What site would you be purchasing this on? If it has GIA paperwork that is SUPER easy to verify if this is the same diamond. Take it to a jeweller and they can read the inscription on the diamond. If it turns out the inscription doesnt match, you would have a case for fraud, but it could be difficult to get your money back. If you are considering this, I would a) pay with credit card (non negotiable) and b) ask for a short inspection period (3 days at least) to have it checked out. If its a private sale with no returns it could be tricky, and you’d need to do a credit card dispute if it turns out fake/fraudlent. 

The stone in the GIA cert is cut pretty deep, so it *could* be the same stone, however, it faces up a bit small, closer to 1ct. 

Post # 10
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Helper bee

It’s an old cut, not a modern round brilliant.  I am no expert on old cuts, but I know they are deeper and face up smaller than modern round brilliants of the same carat weight.  The faceting is different as well, so it will not perform like a modern round brilliant.  As others have said, get more clear pics and videos showing the facet patterns.  You can easily take it to a jeweler to confirm the inscription if you decide to purchase (paying with credit card and paypal if that’s an option and requesting a return period in order to have the inscription confirmed).  GL

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2019

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@typicalanna:  Do not pay with a debit card, absolutely do a credit card. Do you mind sharing the price she is asking? Does she offer returns if you are not happy?

Post # 14
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Helper bee

Credit card offer more protection against fraud. Meaning that even if she doesn’t allow returns, if the product you receive isn’t consistent with what was advertised (including the diamond’s inscription matching the GIA report) you can open a fraud complaint with your credit card company.  Ditto for PayPal invoice, which offers similar protections.  But personally I wouldn’t buy without more clear pictures and a video.  

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

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@typicalanna:  In terms of size, the photo of it seems like what I would expect from a 1.1 carat Old European Cut on a size 7 ring. Like someone said, older cuts are deeper and face up smaller. I also feel like a lot of photos I see online are size 4 or 5 fingers and I have noticed that to my eye that makes a big difference in making the same carat size look a lot larger.

However, I’m not the one buying this ring. If it looks small to you, then you have every right to ask for clarification before buying! Ask for a clear photo that shows the diamond being measured by digital calipers or next to a ruler or measuring tape in mm (where the measurement of the stone could clearly be verified via photo).

In terms of quality of diamond, I’m concerned that this is not a clear photo. You will need clear photos and video in order to make an informed decision about what the quality of the diamond is.

And if you are going to buy it, absolutely use a credit card (more protection if the product is not as described) and take it to a jeweler for investigation/verification immediately after you receive it. 

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