(Closed) Poultry and seafood yes, beef no? Someone please explain.

posted 7 years ago in Food
Post # 3
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2015

I’m not a vegetarian by morals, just a plain old vegetarian, but if I had to hazard a guess I would say it’s because the conditions for raising cows to slaughter are worse than those for poultry/seafood.

Post # 4
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Bee Keeper

I dont think it has anything to do with morals or raising conditions.. I just think that just like there are levels of vegitarianism and veganism there are levels of meat eating.. seafood–then poultry– then red meat– then wild game (bear/deer etc)

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

There’s no such thing as a vegetarian who eats chicken so I can see why you’d be confused.  LOL!  Vegetarians who eat fish are called pescetarians.  My best friend is a pescetarian and she would agree with @discodance: that the way cows and chickens are killed (on factory farms anyway) is generally considered inhumane. 

I admire that you stick up for what you believe in.  🙂

 

Post # 6
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

@discodance:  I would agree with you, except that chicken are treated just as poorly as cattle (not just at slaughter, but where they’re raised, the extra hormons they’re given to grow bigger and faster, etc).

ETA-  My Fiance is a pescatarian, so we’ll definitely have a seafood option, but because non-GMO foods are important to us, we will only be offering any other kind of meat if we can buy it this way.  We, and our families, are cooking all of the food, so unless we can get a large quantity of non-GMO meat for a fairly decent price, we probably won’t be having it.

In saying that, I don’t want to come across as cheap.  Local, non-GMO boneless, skinless chicken breasts sell for $14.99/lb.  It’s an outrageous price that I highly doubt we will be able to pay to feed 200 people.

Post # 7
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2014

I’m guessing it’s because OP said her fiance eats meat, just not red meat. So people got it in their heads that anything but red meat is OK.

I’m with you, it makes no sense. If anything you should serve meat from bigger animals because fewer animals are killed to produce the same quantity of meat.

Post # 8
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2011

  

Post # 9
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Newbee

As a vegetarian, to me, there is no difference between eating red meat, chicken, fish, etc. I don’t eat any of it. However, I do have many family members who do not eat red meat because it is actually not considered to be healthy, while smaller amounts of chicken and fish are believed by many to be way healthier.

 

The thread about the veg wedding was veryyyy interesting and nice to read because I know that is something I will be dealing with in the future. 

Love seeing everyone’s thoughts on this topic. (I’m not a preachy vegetarian but also don’t like to be attacked on my views)

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: August 2011

I eat (some) poultry and seafood but do not eat any meat that comes from a mammal.  To me it’s about feelings.  Fish don’t have feelings.  I don’t feel bad about eating them.  Chickens are sort of borederline in the feelings and brains department. Sometimes I have twinges of guilt but most of the time I’m ok with it. I was raised around chickens and other farm animals and feel ok about eating chicken from what I saw and my experience with them.

Having grown up around cows, pigs, goats, bunnies, etc I could never bring myself to eat them because I know how smart, emotional and sweet these animals are.  They have emotions, form relationships and get attached.    Eating them is the same to me as eating a dog or cat: not happening.

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

oh, boy, lots of vegetarians in my family.  not me personally, but two sisters and a niece.   My 8yr old niece explains it as, she doesn’t eat anything that had a mother.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

@Nf1086:  I think you put that very well.  As a flexitarian (ha!) I try to respect both points of view.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee

I don’t understand this either. Meat is Meat, it all comes from an animal and they are all killed to eat it, same goes for fish too. I do understand how people are against the killing of animals but unless the whole world stops eating it it is never going to stop. IMO the cows already chopped up and ready to cook whether or not I agree with it so I am going to eat it because it tastes awesome. And yes I work in the Agri Industry.

Chicken and fish are healthier choices, but red meat tastes the best for sure lol

Post # 13
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2012 - Pippin Hill Farm & Vineyards

I wrote about never liking how beef tastes on my blog a week or so ago. I have never liked it, so for some, it doesn’t taste “awesome.”

To me, red meat is the “least green” of those options, assuming the fish isn’t an overfished variety.

Raising cattle takes up huge swathes of land and many cattle ranchers used cheap corn-based feed and chemicals (there’s more to it…google Omnivore’s Dilemna if youre curious).

If you object to eating animals, obviously none of the options are ideal. But many vegetarians (myself included) are fine with serving meat raised in a responsible way. We are offering local, grass-fed beef and wild caught salmon on our menu.

Btw, Temple Grandin really revolutionized the slaughterhouse and feed lot industry. There are obviously some that haven’t adopted her practices, but I believe the majority of cattle are slaughtered humanely (without trauma). I believe many of those cattle are still being pumped full of hormones and poor quality feed, though.

Post # 14
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

@discodance:  that is definitely not true… chickens are raised in equally bad (or worse) conditions, and the means of which they are killed are just as brutal…

OP: I think people were suggesting to not serve beef because the OP said her Fiance doesn’t eat red meat…

And someone offered the fish option because some vegetarians are actually pescatarians (sp?) and will eat fish/seafood.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2010

I am a pescatarian but I dont eat shellfish. There are so many different “meat/no meat eating options”. I know a lot of people that eat meat but dont eat red meat. Those people are not vegetarians though

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