Post # 1
I know this may be a touchy subject, but here goes…
I sit here writing this after watching Our American on the OWN Network…the episode was called “Pray the Gay Away?” and Lisa Ling interviewed different members of the “ex-gay” community…those that believe they can change being gay by putting their faith in “God”…I am a straight woman, but have many gay male friends and love them dearly…I am also someone that doesn’t believe in many teachings of the bible for the reasons that they are taken so literal…
Part of me finds it frustrating that the people on the show would think they could just stop being gay and being attracted to who they’re attracted to…but part of me wants to understand why it is that people of the faith that have those feelings believe that homosexuality is something that one can just turn off…it’s like me saying that I’m all of a sudden going to be attracted to women because I don’t want to be straight anymore…
I guess I’m just wondering what everyone else thinks about this concept…both from the LGBTQIA community and those from the religious and non-religious community…I have my own views and opinions, and that’s what they are…
Please don’t turn this into a bashing of any kind…I am just curious on peoples’ feelings about this concept of “praying the gay away”… 😀
Post # 4
I think for some people being gay is so shameful for themselves. I’m not talking about to their family or friends or strangers, but it is an internal conflict they have within themselves and not being aligned with their faith, or morals, or whatever they believe. Therefore, they “pray the gay away”. I think, and of course this is just my opinion, that they pray so much, that they actually start believeing they are no longer gay, even though they might still be, or they might have never been. If “praying the gay away” works for some people, to achieve happiness, more power to them. I do not think it should be forced on people who are gay, or try to coherce them into doing such a act.
Post # 5
I don’t beleive in “praying the gay away” the desire will always be there. But it can be controlled just like anything else. If the person truly beleives that in his/her religion that being gay is wrong, then he/she can abstain from the act by “praying” to keep from temptation. It does help the individual by hearing himself/herself pray. Actions must also follow: such as not going to gay bars, not being alone in a room with someone you are attracted to…. etc…
But “praying the gay away” ummm NO.
Post # 6
@MissThespian: I think it’s very sad. It’s frustrating that people believe this and push it on others, usually young, confused teenagers. If you really could “pray the gay away”, there wouldn’t be so many teenagers killing themselves because of rejection by their own family and friends.
Post # 7
I think the whole concept is very sad, that A) they feel so ashamed in who they are that they feel the need to. and that B) there are religions out there which encourage it.
I am a Catholic and while I know that the strict line of the Vatican is one of loving and acceptance towards gay people and not the act (like wtf) most Catholics are totally accepting of homosexuality and welcome homosexuals like any other people into their church. It saddens me that there are some Christians (maye some Catholics) that would try to get gay people to make them selves something they are not. I am sure that is not what God intended, I am sure God loves everyone for who they are!
Post # 8
Thank you for your responses 🙂 one of the men she interviewed in the documentary was an ex-founder of Exodus, the ex-gay faith community…he told her the story of a man that he counseled while he was still there who went into an adult bookstore and had a sexual encounter with another man…the man was so ashamed by it that he took a razor blade to his genitals and cut it several times, then poured drano on his cuts to punish himself further…I feel that when you are talking about people ending their lives because they don’t understand why they can’t stop being gay, it becomes an issue…for those that are able to live their lives in pure happiness, I don’t have a problem with it…but nobody should EVER force that ideal on anyone who’s gay and doesn’t want to change who they are…
Post # 9
@simpleandchic: I think it’s great that you said this 🙂 I wish that I knew more Christians like you who believe what you do about homosexuality and acceptance of all people…unfortunately, where I come from, many of the Christians that I have met feel strongly against homosexuality and are prejudiced toward homosexuals…it is incredibly sad and extremely close-minded IMO…
Post # 10
- Wedding: October 2012 - Watch tower lodge, Black hawk state Park Rock Island, IL
as a Christian and a supporter of the Gay community i think this idea is ridiculous. in my eyes God doesnt make mistakes, he made everyone exactly the way he meant to and if that means he made people with the desire for others of their same gender than so be it. who am I to judge anyone? thats between them and the good Lord. there are many things in the bible taken out of context and twisted to fit what groups and individuals think and as Christians arent we to follow the new testement? where does Jesus speak on the topic of Homosexuality? he doesnt. thats one thing I have come to realize..being a Christian is about your personal relationship with Christ, he loved everyone. its about a relationship between YOU and Christ, not you and everyone else. It saddens me that so many forget that. and even if you dont agree with someone lifestyle as Christians we are supposed to love anyway. to many people use their faith as a scapegoat for their own personal hate and predjuice. it gives them an excuse to be hateful. my number one question to those so opposed to the idea of Gay marriage and similar topics is ” HOW DOES THIS PERSONALLY EFFECT YOU?” how does it effect your job, where you live, how you live your life, how you raise your children? if steve and bob wanna get married how does it effect you, your family, your life? truth is it doesnt…..you cant Pray away something that is a part of who a person is.
Post # 11
That makes me so sad – it is bad enough when straight people think it can be prayed away, but when a gay person does – gosh I just can’t imagine how much pain they must be in from feeling that badly about themselves. So, so sad.
Post # 12
OP, I read this article through a link from another thread, and I feel compelled to share it too. I think it is relevant to your discussion, but if not, let me know and I can remove it. It’s very powerful– certainly made me cry.
There was also a very moving response to this essay that I found:
Post # 13
I am religious of a specific faith and my father also happens to be gay. We are the same religion but I am practicing Orthodoxy in it and he is not. Quite frankly if praying the gay away worked then my parents would still be married and my dad wouldn’t be gay. And this is coming from someone religious.
Post # 14
When I was in college (on a very diverse and socially liberal campus) a tiny group of protester-types sat in the middle of the quad and held a “prayer circle” to “heal those who have strayed from the path.” They wore shirts that said the title of this thread. It didn’t go over well, but the university didn’t ban it.
Three days later… a whole bunch of the actual university religious groups — from ALL of the represented religions!! — gathered and held their own version, but with signs that read “Pray the HATE Away”!!
Even as a non-religious person, I was so proud of my school and the people in it. People walking by clapped, cheered, and generally supported the message.
Just wanted to share that. I have no comment on the concept of prayer in general, as I don’t participate.
Post # 15
@BostonBaby: That is awesome!
Post # 16
See, I completley dislike groups ( like the small protestors wearing “Pray the gay away” shirts) like this. I don’t think “Praying the gay away” should be something you force or persuade on another person. If a person chooses to do this privately on their own, for their own reasons, thats fine, that’s good, if it helps them move forward, but to impose that kind of belief on others is actually sick, and hurtful, not helpful.
I really like the “Pray the hate away” thats awesome.