(Closed) Preacher won't marry us

posted 8 years ago in Ceremony
Post # 63
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2014 - Greenbrier Country Club

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@carrotstick:   There are, as you have pointed out, lots of verses that tell us not to judge hypocritically, but there are also a lot of verses that tell christians to judge righteously, fairly, and to hold each other accountable (which requires judgement). So while I agree that the bible rejects hypocritical judgement, I also know that it commands christians to tell other christians when they are sinning, to judge righteously, and to hold each other accountable. Example:  John 7:24.
This command is specific to Christian/Christian judgement.
After all, how can a christian hold a non-christian to christian standards?
So it is not that the bible tells a christian to govern a non-christian; rather it tells a christian to speak the truth to other christians. If someone defines themselves as a christian, then they should be adhering to the same standards as a all christians.
Does that make sense?

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@Anise:  Bigotry? I did not mean to come across as proud, though I am very passionate about what I believe. What was it that made you characterize me as a bigot?

Post # 64
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

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@Anna10-05-2014:  No, that doesn’t make sense. You’re using your religion as an excuse to be snarky towards another person. That’s rude.

Post # 65
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2014

@CaseyGail09:  Move out for 1 or 2 months 🙂 you guys already know that love each other. If you really want that priest then do as he says.

Post # 66
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2014 - Greenbrier Country Club

@carrotstick: Woah! You are making some pretty serious judgments about me which are completely inaccurate and unfounded. If you don’t understand what I am saying, then I can try to clearify, but it isn’t necessary to jump to negative conclusions.
Yes, I get that you disagree with me and I’m sorry that you don’t like my beliefs, but that isn’t a just cause to attack my character.

Let me attempt to provide clarity one more time in order to resolve conflict.
Here is an analogy:
The American and Mexican governments have different laws and the citizens of the respective countries are expected to follow the laws of thier government.
The Mexican is not required to follow American law and the American is not required to follow Mexican law. Therefore, the American is foolish to tell the Mexican to follow American laws.

However, if the Mexican becomes an American citizen, which law is the former Mexican under? He obviously abides by American law. So now that you have two people who call themselves American, live in America, and have documents that say they are American, they both are expected to follow the American law.

If that law says to “eat paper,” regardless of what the Mexican law is, as an American, the Americans are under a law to eat paper. If one American is not following that law, and another American said, “you are not eating paper, but the law says you are to eat paper.” Then one American is being judged, and the other American is judging. This kind of judgment is commanded per the bible in several places. It is meant to be helpful not condemning. Christians are to help each other in this way. But it never feels good to be told to do something you don’t want to do, or not to do something you do want to do.

So naturally, the response is, “Don’t judge me!” Which is an inacurate concept of the christian doctrine. Now, I agree that hypocritical judgment, judgment based on appearances… are wrong, and the bible says it is wrong. But when it comes to Christian accountability, the bible is pro-judgement.

Post # 67
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

Deleted. Not dealing with this argument anymore.

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