Post # 16
Well, I don’t have much time to research anything current, but a quick search turned up ONE positive case in 2016 for a 27 year old man. It was found doing testing for other viruses. I didn’t see anything issued in the last year to stay away, nor did I see anything about any more recent cases. From my quick scan, the reason they deemed it “infected,” is because he hadn’t traveled outside Indonesia.
Like I said, I dont have much time to invest in research, but I suppose I would do some research on it. I didn’t see anything about positive cases with pregnant ladies. Regardless, citizens of Indonesia don’t live in the luxury of 5 star resorts, and don’t have the amenities to protect against mosquitoes.
I would find all the information I could find on the type of cases, how frequent, WHERE on the island, etc before I made a decision. Is this guy in a remote village on the island? Or was he on the busiest beach in Bali?
It’s easy to panic about a virus that’s in a country, but just because it’s on one shore doesn’t mean it’s on the other. Again, I would take serious precautions to avoid anything that looks off the beaten path, in stale air/stagnant water, and stay pool side to relax. Granted, the fear is very real. Though, your friend has every amentity and available precaution at her disposal, which cannot be said for the citizens of most of these countries.
Post # 17
llevinso : Some scientists think many women who reside in Zika infected regions are immune – especially regions where Zika has hit before (throughout Asia and Africa). But travelers from America/Canada/Europe aren’t immune.
Post # 18
Who plans a $12k vacation without travel insurance? Even without the whole Zika thing, I can’t wrap my head around someone risking that loss if any other life event happened.
Post # 19
llevinso : I know my opinion is in the minority, but I would tell your friend to go and have fun while taking precautions with bug sprays and clothing.
I can only speak from personal experience and my research, and I’m obviously not a doctor. However, I travel internationally to resort areas multiple times year – and have continued to do so even since the Zika scare. I’ve been everywhere from Mexico to Costa Rica and various places in between. I am also TTC. For me, my Darling Husband has a job that requires him to be in these places for work. There is literally at no point during a calender year that we would ever be in the “6 months after visiting a Zika free zone” the CDC suggests. Likewise MANY of our friends whose husbands also work in the same field as my Darling Husband have been continuing to travel and have completely normal and healthy pregnancies (including my SIL).
Now I never claim to know more than doctors, and I side-eye people who think Jenny McCarthy is right about vax. I’m pro medicine….so it’s unusual for me to go against the grain with medical advice. That being said I cannot get on the Zika bandwagon. I don’t doubt that something was going on in Brazil that resulted in so many Microcephaly babies – I just don’t think it was Zika. I completely understand that we don’t know everything about Zika. If someone feels uncomfortable traveling to a Zika area, by all means don’t go.
Post # 20
BeverlyGeese : I don’t know what made them think to spend that kind of money. This costs more than I spent on my honeymoon and you better believe I had travel insurance for that. From what I understand, they bought this trip at some sort of special auction after they had done a good bit of drinking. This whole trip seemed to have been planned rather impulsively, which is very unlike them. Do I know for a fact that they can’t somehow get out of it without losing all their money? I do not. I’m just going on what my friend told me which is that they either go or are out $12,000.
Post # 21
llevinso : I wouldn’t go. If they don’t go and it becomes a donation to a charity they may be able to claim the money as a tax deductible donation.
I recalled seeing this story about a pregnant OB in Miami last year talking about the precautions she was taking: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/health/zika-pregnant-florida-obstetrician-karla-maguire/index.html
Post # 22
MrsNerdy : Those symptoms were most likely traveller related, not Zika…
Post # 23
She can call them and probably get a refund, even if it says nonrefundable, due to it being a medical reason. I had flights booked when I found out I was pregnant and the airline refunded me w/a doctor’s note.
Post # 24
my bestie went to puerto rico during the height of Zika during a surprise pregnancy and the baby is a happy healthy 8 month old now. She did all her reasearch and although the chances are low, she basically covered herself head to toe when they went on any adventures. She sprayed moquito repellent every 2hrs if they werenʻt just hanging out in the room (no sex either for about 6 weeks after leaving infected areas! since itʻs transferrable sexually as well!). We were all panicked but you can do elective testing upon return (which they did) and even if youʻre positive, even if your partner is positive, the chances of it getting to the baby is even lower, and not all of the babies who even get it are deformed or mentally handicapped so the chances of it being the worst case scenario is real and scary, but also low. Cancel or take precautions 🙂 Do the research before they go and go prepared
Post # 25
Consumer Reports testing showed that Repel Lemon Eucalyptus works just as well as DEET. I personally would not use DEET while pregnant.
There are a limited number of tests. You have to be pregnant or TTC and you or your partner has to have been in a Zika zone. Your state board has to approve the test. In addition, many hospital systems have layered on additional approval processes (because the tests are super expensive and they are afraid of being stuck with the bill). That being said, military and vets are easily and readily tested at the VA. Test results take some time, depending on demand. But the VA gets them in a day.
There are two tests. One only works within two weeks of expoaure. The other just tests for antibodies. But that test cannot say when you were exposed and does not differentiate between Zika, Dengue, or Chikungunya exposure.
Post # 26
Make sure she wears long pants and long sleeves during the trip. I think there’s something where you can soak the clothes before the trip and if the mosquitto lands on the clothing, they die instantly. I read mosquittos like bright colors so wearing dark colored clothes would help. Applying insect repellent would be best, but I would avoid anything that has DEET
Post # 27
So not worth it. As far as I can tell, even contracting Zika while pregnant is not a guarantee the baby will catch it. But if, God forbid, it does happen, will she feel better knowing she didn’t waste that $12,000?
And sure, lots of women live there. So? Bet many of them would move but don’t have the option. And many more may have gotten sick while not pregnant and are now immune.
Post # 28
macpartyoftwo : As I’ve stated before, its possible that it wasn’t zika but the timing and symptoms indicated that it was very likely, especially the red eyes. This particular friend travels out of the country for work frequently and knows the differences, but it does not really matter in the context of this thread. We were in an area with a known zika threat, and the mosquitoes continued to bite the guests even though the resort sprayed daily, which was my main point. I understand that people do not want to believe me and that is fine, but I’m sure there are plenty of cases of travel related zika that go unreported because people do not always go to the doctor for an flu type illness, especially when not pregnant.
Post # 29
MrsNerdy : not too sure – mine was through a private lab as well, since there are only a small number of designated private labs that run the test. But, good for you that you at least have that peace of mind!
Post # 30
MrsNerdy : also, do you know why they ran multiple blood tests? The DOH/CDC standard is one blood test and a urine test, which is what I had.