(Closed) Privacy and wedding photographs

posted 6 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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Honey bee

Photogs usually retain all rights to use their own work. Afterall, those pictures is how they book new work/jobs. So hypothetically if he can’t advertise using the best of your pictures, he could not book business so he is recouping that cost from you. 

Post # 4
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Your photographer most likely generates most of his income from his blog/facebook/etc. The reason for the charge is because if he doesn’t post photos, he will be losing business (in theory). If you had a business, but never showed anyone the product, your chances of selling would be pretty slim! I’m sure you didn’t choose him based on a blank portfolio!

However, if you would prefer them to not be shown until a certain amount of time after the wedding, I think that is a reasonable request. Talk to him about you concerns, and I’m sure he can help you out. 

Post # 5
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2011

50% seems like a large excess to charge I can kind of understand where they are coming from.

Every wedding they shoot becomes part of their portfolio, and it is the portfolio that attracts future customers (like yourself).

So if he cannot show your photos to anyone, then he has nothing to add to his portfolio to show future clients for that wedding date and depending on how many weddings he shoots a year, that might be a bit of a hole in his body of work for the year.

ETA: In thinking about it more 50% might be about right since you essentially have to buy all  photo rights from the photographer and not allowing him to use the photos in the future. Usually photographers retain the rights to the photos to use in their portfolios, advertising, etc and the package with the client allows the client printing rights (but not ownership rights).

Post # 6
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

I would want a say in which photos are posted. If you can say no photos of the ceremony or me getting changed etc.

Post # 7
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: May 2011

Yeah most photogs don’t mind keeping them off Facebook, but most will not even take a job if they can’t post them on their blog. Plus, most people who will take the job will require you not post them anywhere online either. So I would say 50% is fair.

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

@heatherburks:  I love our photographer gives us full rights to our photos. Digital copies where a must when we searched for a photographer.

Post # 10
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

I would find a different photographer.

If you simply must have this photographer, ask him if he would be willing to limit the public photos to detail shots and/or no “face” shots and if he would be willing to not use your names.

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

@lefeymw:  Ditto. I would charge more as an artist if it meant I could not show photos from my own portfolio.

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

That sounds pretty standard.   Inquire about setting a time post wedding when photos can be posted–like 6 months after or something like that and also maintaining veto power over the photos posted.  So if he’s posting something super intimate like a first look or a private moment between you and your husband you don’t want on the internet, then you can veto those but he can post big group dancing shots, a big shot of the ceremony and guests, your hands with your rings on your bouquet, a formal bridal shot and things like that that are less personal.

You likely looked through his online portfolio before selecting him as your photog–keeping his portfolio updated and full is vital to keeping his buisness running.  If everyone wanted to keep their photos private, it would have a major negative impact on his ability to make a living so having a steep penalty discourages that.

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

It depends where you live. Here in Ontario, Canada the person who hires the photographer owns the rights to the photos, NOT the photographer. This means the photographer cannot use or reproduce your images without your permission, also they must provide you with all images taken that day and cannot charge you for the originals or digital copies. We are getting all our images and can do with them as we please, including reprinting and publishing as we see fit. Check out the laws regarding photography and copyright in the area in which you live.

Post # 14
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2010

That seems odd to me. With most people excited to be posted online he shouldn’t have such an issue with you not wanting to unless he’s not very popular or just starting out.  We just asked ours nicely not to post pictures of my husbands and a few people in our wedding party’s face on their site due to their profession and they were totally fine with it.  We’re totally fine with them including them in a printportfolio.  No extra charges at all.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2012

@Rrabbetsgirl:  Weird when I was looking at photographers in Ontario the digital copies cost 700$.

Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

Most of the bees responding to this are providing good insight.  What is it you are worried about by having the photos posted?  If you had expressed a legitimate concern to the photographer (celebrity, undercover cop, CIA agent, crazy stalker trying to find you etc) I’d be surprised if you couldn’t find some sort of amicable agreement regarding the photos.  If you asked about this but didn’t provide a reason you may have come off as controlling which is usually a red flag to most photographers.  And I’m not saying that is the case, just providing a possible explanation.  

I have never met a photographer in my career who posted a wedding of a couple that used both their first and last names.  Any blog post they put up likely isn’t going to be as searchable as you might think, and it also won’t be at the top of their blog forever.  We have only run into this once in 4 years of being full time, and it was for a groom who worked for the department of defense (and to be honest it wasn’t a wedding we were excited about blogging anyway).  

@naturalysam:  I haven’t heard your contract obviously, but I do see this popping up from time to time in this forum.  I have never come across a professional wedding photographer who relinquishes his/her copyright automatically, if it happens in rare instances it is usually done at a premium. More than likely you have a print release, or rights to make your prints at any lab of your choice.  I doubt that the photographer has relinquished his/her rights to publish your photos or use them for promotional purposes.  I may be wrong in your particular case, but this is not the industry norm.

Anyways, I’m not sure if I’d charge a 50% premium for a wedding I had to agree to not blog, but I’d definitely try to ascertain what the clients specific fears were before I made a decision.  

 

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