(Closed) Pro-Choice Bees – Where do you draw the moral/ethical line?

posted 6 years ago in Wellness
  • poll: When do you think it is morally too late to abort a pregnancy? (excluding serious complications)
    I am pro-life so any time is too late : (70 votes)
    18 %
    1 month : (4 votes)
    1 %
    2 months : (15 votes)
    4 %
    3 months : (88 votes)
    23 %
    4 months : (48 votes)
    13 %
    5 months : (31 votes)
    8 %
    6 months : (21 votes)
    5 %
    7 months (the point at which most ppl believe babies are viable outside the womb) : (63 votes)
    16 %
    8 months : (2 votes)
    1 %
  • Post # 3
    Member
    2214 posts
    Buzzing bee

    For me, I don’t think abortion should be an option if the baby can be delivered and live.  I’ve never been pregnant, but I believe that’s around 24ish weeks.  At that point, if the mother/parents don’t want it, then I believe it should be put up for adoption.

    Post # 4
    Hostess
    16213 posts
    Honey Beekeeper

    I’m going to weigh in only based on my own experience — I was born prematurely, at only 7 months (28 weeks). Aside from an extra-long hospital stay, I didn’t have a single health issue due to the premature birth. Because of that, I’m personally not onboard with late-term (elective) abortions.

    Post # 5
    Member
    2775 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: April 2010

    @Boston Bee:  Agreed.  Once the fetus is viable, morally it does not feel OK to me to abort it.

    Post # 6
    Member
    2697 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    @Gemstone:  Agreed with exceptions, as Janna19 alluded to above, certain diseases can only be tested for in the third trimester.

    Post # 7
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    1587 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: January 2013

    Wow, I’ve never really thought about this. On one hand I believe that it’s a woman’s body and she has the right to choose (up to a point) but on the other hand I feel for the women who may not be able to conceive a child and would die to adopt.  There are other factors with this as well, like if the woman was assaulted then I thinkthe has the right to terminate.

     

    I personally don’t think I could ever morally abort a pregnancy knowing full well that the child is healthy.

    Post # 8
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    5096 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    I am extremely troubled by post-viability abortions, unless there are medical reasons. I would never try to write that into law, because I think it’s really hard to draw a line and say one day it’s ok, the next day it’s not. But ethically, I think it’s probably wrong past 5 or 6 months.

    Post # 9
    Hostess
    16213 posts
    Honey Beekeeper

    @Roe:  Yeah, that’s what I was trying to cover the the “elective” note — unless medically necessary.

    Post # 10
    Member
    650 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    I would say (aside from major complications) my personal limit is 5 or 6 months. Even though 7months is viable, I personally could not do it past the 5 or 6 month timeframe.

    Post # 11
    Member
    13010 posts
    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

    I am pro-choice for others, and pro-life for myself.  Simply put, I don’t think I have the authority to make the decision for anyone else, but morally I am very opposed to it for myself.  I think after 3 months it starts getting questionable, as soon as the fetus could survive outside the womb, it’s wrong. 

    Post # 12
    Member
    1587 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: January 2013

    @abbie017:  Well said.

    Post # 13
    Member
    11356 posts
    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: May 2009

    I am pro-life, so I voted accordingly in your poll. I am interested to see how pro-choice bees will respond to your question. 

    One very sincere (not politically motivated or snarky in ANY way) question I have always wondered is, for pro-choice women who want to be pregnant, at what point in their developing pregnancies would/does each woman consider her own (insert proper, technical, medical term for appropriate stage of fetal development here) to be a baby?

    Strictly from my own personal observations (not scientific research in any way) of women in general, I think that, regardless of a woman’s position in the pro-choice vs. pro-life debate, if she willfully chose to try to conceive or is very happy to find out she has conceived, she seems to consider the developing (again, insert proper medical terminology here) to be her baby pretty much as soon as she discovers her pregnancy. This may not be true of some or perhaps many women, however. I don’t know.

    Post # 14
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    2065 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: December 2011

    I think my personal limit would be 4-5 months, anything after that I would have it and put it up for adoption if I couldn’t take care of it. Only exceptions being medically necessary (health of the mother, no quality of life, etc).

    Post # 15
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    414 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    I agree with PP. I am also pro-choice for others and pro-life for myself.  I did a research project in college about partial birth abortions and was horrified.  I also have a friend who delivered her child at 5 1/2 months and the baby survived. So for me I dont think I could ever have one even though in the midst of a panic attack of thinking I was preggers, the thought actually crossed my mind and then quickly went away. I think once a baby starts to have organ development (I think its around 3 months) that abortion becomes immoral (personal opinion.

    Post # 16
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    1855 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: December 2013

    I look at “Will it suffer?”

    Neurologically, although the exact date of this commencing is debated, I rely on neonatal perception. If it cannot feel pain, and has no concept or thought process to comprehend what “pain” is, then it cannot suffer. Past 28-30 weeks breaches my personal ethics, but I accept that there are reasons for individuals to terminate pregnancy at later dates.

    It’s easy to argue that an embryo is a baby, but the reality is that it scientifically isn’t. It’s a bundle of cells. So as stated, I am very liberal minded up until the end of pregnancy. If your offspring is capable of surviving outside of your body, it should not be terminated.

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