Post # 92
@MrsPadlock2B: That is an interesting article. Thank you for posting it. I feel like there is too much back and forth between the pro-life/pro-choice factions, and the women and children we are arguing about are set aside in favor of proving which side is right. I think both sides can agree that it would be wonderful if there were less abortions. So why not both sides focus on that? Roe VS. Wade is never going to be overturned. People who believe abortion is wrong will never be convinced its not. We are at a stalemate. Lets move on to see what we can do to decrease the need for it. I think both sides can agree it would be wonderful if abortion clinics closed because we no longer have a need for them.
Post # 93
@futuremrskirkman: that’s awesome!! I’m so glad to finally see someone who is ‘pro-life’ actually be positive and HELP people rather than just judge-y and shaming women who get themselves I to situations they can’t handle.
hurge props to you!
Post # 94
@Hot_Sauce: abortion will never be safe because it always ends in someone dying. If women want to go to the side of the road to have some creep kill her baby with a hanger then that’s her choice. I thought you pro abortionists would support her Choice.
Post # 95
@Bridey77: I think both sides can agree that it would be wonderful if there were less abortions.
Nope couldn’t care less. Even if women went to have abortions 5 x a day, I don’t care how many there are. Not my concern, at all.
People who believe abortion is wrong will never be convinced its not.
True, but they should be able to be convinced that people should be able to CHOOSE what they want to do for themselves and butt out. Stop forcing your beliefs on others, it’s just common curtosy.
We are at a stalemate.
Not true. In some states Anti-choicers are winning, it’s freaking scary ass shit.
Lets move on to see what we can do to decrease the need for it. I think both sides can agree it would be wonderful if abortion clinics closed because we no longer have a need for them.
A: don’t care how many abortions happen as stated before and more importantly
B: “abortion clinics” do so much more for women than abrotions and no matter how many facts are thrown at you guys about mammograms, birth control, gyno check ups, you put your thumbs into your ears and scream out loud “LA LA LA LA LA.”
Post # 96
So here it is: What would you like to see happen as a society/community/with in our goverment to support women and children and decrease the likelyhood of an abortion?
-Better sexual education for young women and men.
-More access to reliable birth control for women and men
-More support for women faced with an unwanted pregnancy, and less people screaming what’s right and wrong at her.
Post # 97
@atacrossroads: ooooO! I know, I know! Then they’re the overburdensome bane of taxpayer society.
Post # 98
@Atalanta: I am going to be perfectly honest with you……I think your attitude towards this whole thread is unbelievably immature(assuming that you actually read my initial post to begin with, and I’m not convinced you did). This is not about who is right and who is wrong, or whether or not abortion should be legal. I asked how can we support women and children, and how we can we decrease the NEED for abortion. The fact you don’t recognize the need for these things tells me you don’t really know why you are pro-choice to begin with.
Post # 99
@jb20: I agree with everything you posted. Speaking as someone who is pro-life, I am all for women getting educated on alternatives to abortion. I don’t believe screaming hateful things outside of an abortion clinic is going to facilitate that, in fact, I believe it hinders it.
Post # 100
@Bridey77: Unfortunately I did.
you say: I would like to see the clinics close because we no longer have a use for them.
This makes no sense. Abortion clinics wouldn’t close even if there weren’t abortions happening there, becasue that is a very tiny thing of what these clinics do.
Why are pro-lifers so against clinics that focus on women’s health?
Post # 101
@Kate0558: Sure, that sounds like you value life a lot. Except when it comes to women’s safety! Yikes. I am very thankful our collective reproductive choices aren’t dictated by your views. Do you realize how awful you sound? Hopefully you just came across as crass and are not seriously suggesting that back alley abortions are something women want or deserve.
@Bridey77: Awesome, I’m can glad we agree that clinics providing women’s health services including abortion should always be legal, regulated and available….sounds like you are pro-choice to me! Meaning that even if you, personally, would never have an abortion, you believe that other people should have safe options for their own reproductive choices. I think increased sex education and easy access to birth control are effective ideas for decreasing the need for abortions…and those are ideas pro choicers have been pushing for a while! No one is happy to have an abortion. It’s a sad and difficult time, even if it’s the best decision. My concern with your original post, that all clinics would be closed because no one would need abortions, is that people will always need abortions. Some of those are wanted pregnancies, but unfortunately wouldn’t be able to survive and/or put the mother in danger. Sometimes it may be because birth control failed, or none was used. It’s not my, or your job, to judge those decisions. But hoping to be rid of safe, qualified doctors who provide those services is at the very least naive, and at worst, negligent to women’s health.
Post # 102
@Bridey77: There are actually no clinics in Ireland as abortion is illegal. However, many still travel to Britain to have abortions. I am definitely leaning more towards pro life after apregnancy and mc. The pregnancy lasted 10 weeks and I was blown away by the development of my baby in that short space of time. However, there are always special circumstances. We had already decided to go for screening and if the baby had Edward Syndrome or anything life threatening like that, that we would not prolong his or our pain.
Post # 103
Plenty of people are educated about sex and birth control, yet they still have either have unplanned pregnancies or impregnate someone unintentionally.
Post # 104
I think those people trying to use this thread to debate prolife vs pro choice are missing the point of this thread. There are actually some very mature intelligent conversations going on about how women who do not abort can be supported and how the demand for abortion can be reduced, and it’s sad to see then bring derailed. Also when the title of the thread refrrs to clinics being closed, I do believe they are referring to abortions not bring available rather than closing down the elements that deal with other aspects of women’s health. Lets try not to fall out over technicalities.
Btw in case anyone jumps to conclusions – I am pro choice, however that does not mean I can’t respect some of the posts from prolife people here even if I don’t share their opinion.
Post # 105
@Hot_Sauce: pro-choice is never a title I would ever give myself. I just recognize that shutting down the abortion clinics would not stop abortion, and being prolife to me means you aren’t just thinking of the baby’s life, but the moms as well. I really think that the prolife VS. prochoice debate in the US has just turned into a giant merry-go-round. Yes, let both sides find a common goal and work on that and maybe actually accomplish something.
@phoebephoebo: I was actually prochoice before I was pregnant. The first time I heard my baby’s heart beat, everything changed :). I’m sorry for your loss. Thank you for your comments. Ireland is probably the place I’d like most to visit over anywhere. Its been on my bucket list a long time.
@aliciaspinnet: I really, really appreciate you saying this. I think there really has been a lot of great conversation about the original topic. I have actually learned a lot from everyones input. That’s why I’m not closing it down despite so much side tracking. I really think that alot of it could be avoided if people would just read the original post in its entirety. I had no idea that so many people comment on the title of a thread with out reading the original first post. The next time someone does a “what annoys you on WB” thread, I am totally posting about it, LOL.
Post # 106
@Bridey77: “Yes, let both sides find a common goal and work on that and maybe actually accomplish something.”
It’s very nice to hear from someone with prolife views who is also very realistic about the bigger picture.