(Closed) Problems with birth certificates with notations– missing sacraments?!?

posted 6 years ago in Catholic
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2012

As far as I know, as long as they have a record of your baptism, that should be enough. 

Post # 4
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Sugar bee

Yes, generally all you need to have is the baptismal certificate, and then you can verbally communicate to your priest when and where you received the others.

Back in the day when people spent most of their lives, or at least most of their childhoods, in the same place, parish records generally noted all the sacraments on the baptismal certificate. Nowadays it’s way more common for people to move, and kids often receive their sacraments in different parishes. Those generally do not get communicated back to wherever they were baptized. You just let the priest know when you do your affidavits and he’ll fill in the information.

If you don’t remember exactly when you had your First Communion and Confirmation, it’s a good idea to refresh your memory (at least as to the year) before you have the meeting to complete the affidavits.

Post # 5
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I had to contact each different parish/diocese where I got each sacrament. I think the parishes get lazy and do not communicate your sacraments across diocese sometimes.

My husband in Orthodox and his church was really bad about keeping records. So he was able to get a letter from the priest that baptized him. There are ways around having the actual certificate.

It is definitely annoying having to gather all the info! Good luck!

Post # 6
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

My baptism certificate (parish 1) had my confirmation (parish 2) but not first communion. I thought that was odd since I completed the latter two sacraments at parish 2. It’s not a problem for me since I’m getting married at parish 2.

Also, I didn’t even have a new baptism certificate before the first two meetings with our priest and attending Engaged Encounter.  

Post # 7
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Sugar bee

It’s a little odd – but, these days, it might actually be more unusual that your baptismal certificate actually had a notation of a subsequent sacrament that took place at a different parish!

If it has your confirmation, I’m sure you don’t need to worry, because in the Catholic church if you receive confirmation it presupposes that you’ve received communion. Adults receive them both at the same time, with children they generally receive First Communion several years before, so either way they’ll know you’re covered.

Post # 8
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

check with the church you are getting married at to see if it even matters whether the notations are there, and you can verbablly tell them you received the other sacraments. If for some odd reason they insist on having proof, you can see if you still have the original “certificate” that you got when you were a kid for any of the sacraments. Actually, Confirmation is the only one that really matters, since obviously you can go receive Communion and Confession any time, so why does it matter when your “first” was? but Confirmation is an actual single event, so usually parishes keep good records of that, so if you really need proof of that, you can just call the parish where your confirmation happened and they should still have a record of it.

Post # 9
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: December 2012

Legally speaking, you don’t need the First Communion notation.  (Seriously.  Look it up.  A lot of priests ask for this, but it’s silly for them to do so since it isn’t required to be notated and therefore often isn’t.  You probably shouldn’t phrase it quite that way, though. :P)  You do, however, need the Confirmation one.  The church at which you were confirmed should have sent your baptismal church records about it–date, bishop, etc.  Contact the church at which you were confirmed, and arrange for them to have the Confirmation information sent to your baptismal church.

Mine didn’t have my First Communion information, but it did have the Confirmation notation.  That was enough.  My priest was the one who told me about the First Communion not having to be on there, actually.

Post # 10
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

i was baptized at 1 parish, had my 1st communion & confirmation at another, and am getting married at another. i had to deal with missing notations, incorrect dates….you’d think churches would be more careful about that since it’s so important to them, lol

anyways, my baptism certificate only had a notation for my confirmation, not my first communion. they said the church probably just didn’t send them the information. as previously mentioned, i don’t think first communion notations/certificate is really necessary, but i went to the church where i received my first communion and had them give me a copy of my certificate, just in case. 

Post # 11
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Newbee
  • Wedding: October 2013

omg I was told to bring my baptism certificate and “notations for marriage” or “vocations for marriage” ?? i have no idea what this is and neither does my fiance, his parents, or mine. I am so confused haha. this is the first time I have seen something similar. I am so nervous the church at my destination won’t marry us!

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@juney20: after you’re baptized, they make a notation on your baptism certificate that gives the date of each sacrament you receive after that. so if you’ve been married thru the church before, there would be notation for that on your baptism certificate (i believe that’s what your church is referring to). that’s partly the reason why they ask for it; they want to make sure that there wasn’t a previous marriage recorded, and if there was, it was dissolved thru an annulment and not a divorce. so as far as notations for marriage go, as long as neither of you has been married thru the church and then divorced, you don’t need to worry. 

 

Post # 13
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Newbee
  • Wedding: October 2013

@lilchicana – thank you so much for clearing that up. I was baptized in a Catholic orthodox church, so I hope their records coordinate with my fiance’s Roman Catholic church standards! we were never married before, so hopefully it shouldn’t be an issue.

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2012

FI’s baptismal certificate didn’t have his other sacraments noted. He had to get those records from the church at which he received them. It took an additional 5 minutes to call that church and have them send it.

Post # 15
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Newbee
  • Wedding: January 2013

You need to call the parish at which you received the Sacrament of Confirmation. It is necessary to get married in the Church.

Post # 16
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Sugar bee

@juney20:  They may also be referring to your affidavits? Those are the forms the priest fills out where you state under oath whether or not you have been married before, that you’re choosing to marry of your own free will, haven’t been kidnapped or coerced, etc.

For a destination wedding, I’m not sure if those come from your home parish (probably?) or whether you do them there … they might also want you to bring documentation that you’ve completed marriage prep/pre-Cana in your diocese. I would call back to clarify what exactly it is that they expect you to bring and what you can take care of there.

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